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AY RTW Sale

Petanorth

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Hello,
I have used the AY RTW for 4 years now – it sure has gone down the drain .
The new fare structures are higher and confusing but the worst is the North American transit .
Whereas once there was a lot of options going across the USA – eg a stopover in Dallas or Chicago but now you can only travel from Helsinki to LAX JFK or MIA.
Now, no other US cities available !
If you want to travel say HEL-Chicago , you can get to New York , pay your own way to ORD, then pay your own way to LAX and home to Melbourne.
I can’t complain about decent fares and sectors with Finnair in the past but the days of my partner and I using them are gone . Austrian and LH are cheaper and have much more transit options in the US and Canada.
There is no public access to the AY fare rules – I have been given this info via my travel agent .
Has any other poster noted these downward changes ?
 

Princess Fiona

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Hello,
I have used the AY RTW for 4 years now – it sure has gone down the drain .
The new fare structures are higher and confusing but the worst is the North American transit .
Whereas once there was a lot of options going across the USA – eg a stopover in Dallas or Chicago but now you can only travel from Helsinki to LAX JFK or MIA.
Now, no other US cities available !
If you want to travel say HEL-Chicago , you can get to New York , pay your own way to ORD, then pay your own way to LAX and home to Melbourne.
I can’t complain about decent fares and sectors with Finnair in the past but the days of my partner and I using them are gone . Austrian and LH are cheaper and have much more transit options in the US and Canada.
There is no public access to the AY fare rules – I have been given this info via my travel agent .
Has any other poster noted these downward changes ?
@madrooster is across these changes.
I have booked another for March but as I wanted to go to JFK anyway it worked out well for me. I can also do QF11/12 to/ from JFK, previously could only go as far as LAX.
Odd that they have dropped ORD as they actually fly their own metal there.
 

Petanorth

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I am flying mid February 2020 .
Finnair do not have direct flights Helsinki to Chicago or vv.
 

vmile

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+1 for madrooster being 'The man' for these AY RTW flights.
Chicago is a seasonal flight, usually from around 1 April to 1 December, so no good for mid -Feb.
It appears that AY have removed the free internal AA USA flights?.
Through madrooster I just booked for my boss
ADL-SYD-SIN (all QF)-HEL-TXL-HEL-ORD (all AY) ,then direct to Brisbane on the new QF flight-SYD in J

So still a good hall of QF SCs and points, at the cost of a QF RTW in only PE.
Yes, AY has revised the terms, but still the best of the OW options.
 

Kangol

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There is no public access to the AY fare rules – I have been given this info via my travel agent .
Has any other poster noted these downward changes ?
This sounds like a good product for maximising SC earn, especially for west coast US travel if you travel during a seasonal time.

Found some info on the rules:

Are you allowed to use AA in the US? eg. HEL-xLAX-SAN.
 

supa007

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Yeah, my itinerary would earn 820 SC. Tack on a domestic return flight from JFK, I’m looking at 980SC! All together ~$7.5k. Too bad no QF DSC this time around. Also makes VA HBA-DUD DSC run for $1100 unbelievably economical to achieve Platinum.

This sounds like a good product for maximising SC earn, especially for west coast US travel if you travel during a seasonal time
Found some info on the rules:

Are you allowed to use AA in the US? eg. HEL-xLAX-SAN.
 

Kangol

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Yeah, my itinerary would earn 820 SC. Tack on a domestic return flight from JFK, I’m looking at 980SC! All together ~$7.5k. Too bad no QF DSC this time around. Also makes VA HBA-DUD DSC run for $1100 unbelievably economical to achieve Platinum.
In today's climate, that's reasonably good value.
Where are the stops in BDB-BNE-SYD-SIN-HEL-CPH-HEL-JFK-LAX-SYD-BNE-BDB ?
Was JFK-LAX on an AA codeshare with QF?
 

ozflier

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This sounds like a good product for maximising SC earn, especially for west coast US travel if you travel during a seasonal time.

Found some info on the rules:

Are you allowed to use AA in the US? eg. HEL-xLAX-SAN.
Thank you for that
One part of the rules re US travel is downright confusing (and I quote below )
My travel in february ( booked thru Flight Centre ) included intra USA travel only between cities which Finnair served ( 3 of them in that season ) - I think the advert needs to be changed to explain the restrictions better.

Some destinations may be operated seasonally, destinations and routes are subject to change.

North American Cities:
One stopover is offered on the base fares from a Tier 1 destination. Tier 2 fares allow either one or two stop combinations.
Tier 1) Los Angeles, San Francisco, Chicago, New York City, Honolulu and LA.
Tier 2) Los Angeles and Chicago, Los Angeles and NYC, Los Angeles and Miami, Los Angeles and San Francisco, San Francisco and Chicago, San Francisco and NYC, Dallas and Chicago, Dallas and New York City, Dallas and Miami, Toronto (via Hong Kong) and NYC.
Tier 3) Additional routes offered via Havana, Puerto Vallarta, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Houston, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Charlotte and Vancouver. As well as additional route combinations with Hawaii and mainland USA destinations. Inquire with your preferred cities and our expert consultants will help structure the airfare with you.


If there are any travel agents reading this , could they please post a copy of the full rules for AY rtws from Australia?
 

JohnM

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My travel in february ( booked thru Flight Centre ) included intra USA travel only between cities which Finnair served ( 3 of them in that season ) - I think the advert needs to be changed to explain the restrictions better.
If there are any travel agents reading this , could they please post a copy of the full rules for AY rtws from Australia?
There is a TA on AFF who is a gun on these (and everything else, I might add!).

Using Flight Centre may not be optimal, judging from frequent comments.

I've never bought an AY, what I call 'mini' RTW, as I buy a 'full' OneWorld RTW (DONEx) every year and have done so for the last 15 years.

However, my brother and his wife did an AY RTW earlier this year, bought through Roundabout Travel: RoundAbout Travel. They specialise in RTW fares and he said their service was excellent.

(I am not associated with them in any way.)

Edit: I just noticed that @Kangol also mentioned RoundAbout Travel.
 

supa007

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In today's climate, that's reasonably good value.
Where are the stops in BDB-BNE-SYD-SIN-HEL-CPH-HEL-JFK-LAX-SYD-BNE-BDB ?
Was JFK-LAX on an AA codeshare with QF?
Stopping HEL, CPH and JFK.
JFK all the way back to SYD on QF12.
Hoping to score the upgraded A380 between LAX-SYD
 

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