Avianca "Lifemiles" - Questions and Discussion

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what's the underlying email server? Possibly there's a copy still on the email server if you can log in via the web version?

Depends onhow outlook is set up to. sometimes it will delete the webserver copy of the email once downloaded.

Setup to delete and was made a little while ago.

Using the Print Receipts function shows me dates/transaction but can't get the PNR.

Thanks for the help all, I'll email Avianca and see what they can do.
 
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Oh...my...god!

They didnt provide him transportation to the gate, how lucky are TG that the princess has forgiven them.
 
Re: Avianca Life Miles - post your SUCCESSFUL award bookings here

Using the Print Receipts function shows me dates/transaction but can't get the PNR.

It's on the actual receipt.

Click on "View" in the last column, and then when the receipt displays, look at the middle of the bottom line of either the top or bottom half of the receipt.
 
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Oh...my...god!

They didnt provide him transportation to the gate, how lucky are TG that the princess has forgiven them.

I hear you, but having just read the article, and not being familiar with the airport, it seems that a gate change occurred that meant people on First Class tickets would have to walk "1+ km" to get to the gate. I am not really sure that it is unreasonable in that situation to ask for a ride.
 
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I hear you, but having just read the article, and not being familiar with the airport, it seems that a gate change occurred that meant people on First Class tickets would have to walk "1+ km" to get to the gate. I am not really sure that it is unreasonable in that situation to ask for a ride.

well... it's not a kilometre for starters... the TG lounge is sorta near the CX bridge lounge... that's not that far. Secondly, the author claims there is no train going the opposite way... that's incorrect. There are also moving walkways the entire length of the main concourse.

If the author couldn't make the journey with their cabin baggage, then perhaps they were carrying too much to start with?

Unless there was a compelling reason... injury, elderly, or other special needs... a gate change is something most first class passengers should be able to manage in their stride. It's sort of like finding shot in your pheasant during dinner... one deals with it and moves on.
 
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well... it's not a kilometre for starters... the TG lounge is sorta near the CX bridge lounge... that's not that far. Secondly, the author claims there is no train going the opposite way... that's incorrect. There are also moving walkways the entire length of the main concourse.

If the author couldn't make the journey with their cabin baggage, then perhaps they were carrying too much to start with?

Unless there was a compelling reason... injury, elderly, or other special needs... a gate change is something most first class passengers should be able to manage in their stride. It's sort of like finding shot in your pheasant during dinner... one deals with it and moves on.


Love it, keeping it real!
 
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MEL traveler, as per hummel, love you post.

Have suffered shot in quite a few pheasants I have eaten (flown) and manage to cope :)
 
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well... it's not a kilometre for starters... the TG lounge is sorta near the CX bridge lounge... that's not that far. Secondly, the author claims there is no train going the opposite way... that's incorrect. There are also moving walkways the entire length of the main concourse.

Agree that the whinge is way over the top, but I reckon it's more than a kilometre from the TG lounge to gate 3.
And isn't the train for arriving pax only in that direction?
 
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re: Avianca "Life Miles" - Questions and Discussion

Agree that the whinge is way over the top, but I reckon it's more than a kilometre from the TG lounge to gate 3.
And isn't the train for arriving pax only in that direction?

Yeah - I think you are right about the train! I had in my mind there was an escalator down to them... but that must be for access to The Bridge ... and the escalators for the train are probably only on the arrivals level.

So... using google maps, it looks like the main middle section of HKIA is ~600 metres in length. So I guess at a push it might come to somewhere near 1km for the TG lounge -> gate 3. Guess I should check my facts!!

But there are moving walkways :)
 
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Unless he is disabled (no mention of that in the article) he should not have received any compensation from the airline. An apology would be more then enough in this case. By refunding his non-refundable ticket TG legitimises this kind of self-entitlement behaviour.
 
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This thread is just so wildly off-topic I feel sorry for anyone reading it wanting to know more about LM.
 
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We need a separate thread discussing issues related to TG in general. Somehow all TG's issues ended up discussed here.
 
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This thread is just so wildly off-topic I feel sorry for anyone reading it wanting to know more about LM.
I was about to say exactly the same thing, so you have saved me taking the [mod hat] off the hat rack! :)
 
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Another unpublished benefit is the complementary buggy service TG offers to F pax departing HKG. For some reason (must be cost) they keep this little perk a secret and one must request it upon check-in.

See, unless I need it medically, or maybe I happen to be at the end of my physical tether, or maybe I have a lot of carry-on and forgot to bring my pack mule, I'd feel a bit weird requesting a buggy. Being built rather on the side of plump, check-in would probably rebuff me by saying that their refusal would be doing me a favour for my health.

Point is, if a buggy is offered, fine, but do it consistently. If one isn't offered, also fine. Just do one or the other; all said and done, if one isn't offered as per standard operating procedure, then actually having to request one would be only for a purpose that anyone of any class of service would be entitled to.

A bit OT but speaking of TG buggy service, I thought to share this DYKWIA story recently published on LoyaltyLobby.
Compensation Clinic: Thai Airways Flight HKG-BKK | LoyaltyLobby

I was thinking there was a good reason for this complaint. The fact that one didn't want to spend 15 minutes walking about a kilometre (and a bit less if the moving walkways were used) was not what I had in mind. Needless to say, I don't have much cordial to say about the complainant.

One commenter remarked, "He paid for a First Class ticket. So he should expect better service, as that is what you get when you buy First Class." Interesting comment.

Some of the other problems he had were legitimate complaints, but the thing which caused him to cancel was rather silly in my opinion.

Unless he is disabled (no mention of that in the article) he should not have received any compensation from the airline. An apology would be more then enough in this case. By refunding his non-refundable ticket TG legitimises this kind of self-entitlement behaviour.

I have some doubt that he is disabled or even crippled for any reason (e.g. sprained ankle, pulled an all-nighter and feeling legless). Packing too much for your carry-on which makes it arduous to pull along isn't really an excuse. I certainly have schlepped some considerable weight with me around HKG; transport would have been nice, but I'm not that precious.

One might believe that if requesting a buggy for a medical condition is not much to ask for, then surely just asking for one as a First Class passenger should not be much less, or even no different, a bother.

We don't know how or what was written in his complaint to TG. Sometimes airlines don't actually read what is written properly and just dish out to suppress any further disagreement. Asian airlines seem particularly ready to oblige without the kind of "resistance" you get in some other Western society based airlines.

We also don't know for sure whether he specifically requested a refund of the flight in question; in fact, it is not entirely clear if he asked for anything at all. The comment about "not so much a compensation but more a refund of unused flight" seems contradictory and post facto.


But let's relate this back to LM in general (and a mod can copy and split / edit this post as necessary). Again, I come from the point of view that TG F is acceptable, and usually worth the cost of redemption given that similar options at the same time with the same conditions are rarely available nor necessarily more desirable. Is it a fantastic First Class product? In my opinion, no. If you've never flown First Class before, I can confidently say that you'll be in for a treat. If I had to recommend a First Class product to a friend who had seen and done some before, I might not recommend TG first and foremost. But TG F is quite readily available and usually easily booked online (thankfully)... well, for me not having to originate from Australia, it seems alright, but from Australia may be different.

Note though that other *A search engines will suggest there is usually more award seating (in both TG Business and First) than what would be suggested online by LM; in fact, it's quite common to have:
  • Nil availability on TG J/F on a given day according to LM, but availability according to another Star Alliance airline's search engine.
  • Nil availability on TG flight unless searched as part of a combination or lack thereof, e.g. availability on TG F LHR-BKK and then another search shows BKK-NRT also available, but trying to search LHR-NRT (via BKK) shows nothing. Here, screenshot method is required, or bite the bullet and book two awards at a higher cost.
One thing also notable is a hunch only, which is that searching for seats, selecting that seat and proceeding to the next page where you can vary the cost in miles and cash (and see the applicable taxes) actually temporarily holds that seat for you. If I execute a search like this, then go back to the beginning and run the exact same search again, the seat which I had selected before interrupting the process appears to not show up (in the case where there may be only one such seat left to start with, the next search would show nothing available). Wait a little while, and if no one else has jumped on the seat, it will come back.
 
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See, unless I need it medically, or maybe I happen to be at the end of my physical tether, or maybe I have a lot of carry-on and forgot to bring my pack mule, I'd feel a bit weird requesting a buggy. Being built rather on the side of plump, check-in would probably rebuff me by saying that their refusal would be doing me a favour for my health.

Point is, if a buggy is offered, fine, but do it consistently. If one isn't offered, also fine. Just do one or the other; all said and done, if one isn't offered as per standard operating procedure, then actually having to request one would be only for a purpose that anyone of any class of service would be entitled to.



I was thinking there was a good reason for this complaint. The fact that one didn't want to spend 15 minutes walking about a kilometre (and a bit less if the moving walkways were used) was not what I had in mind. Needless to say, I don't have much cordial to say about the complainant.

One commenter remarked, "He paid for a First Class ticket. So he should expect better service, as that is what you get when you buy First Class." Interesting comment.

Some of the other problems he had were legitimate complaints, but the thing which caused him to cancel was rather silly in my opinion.



I have some doubt that he is disabled or even crippled for any reason (e.g. sprained ankle, pulled an all-nighter and feeling legless). Packing too much for your carry-on which makes it arduous to pull along isn't really an excuse. I certainly have schlepped some considerable weight with me around HKG; transport would have been nice, but I'm not that precious.

One might believe that if requesting a buggy for a medical condition is not much to ask for, then surely just asking for one as a First Class passenger should not be much less, or even no different, a bother.

We don't know how or what was written in his complaint to TG. Sometimes airlines don't actually read what is written properly and just dish out to suppress any further disagreement. Asian airlines seem particularly ready to oblige without the kind of "resistance" you get in some other Western society based airlines.

We also don't know for sure whether he specifically requested a refund of the flight in question; in fact, it is not entirely clear if he asked for anything at all. The comment about "not so much a compensation but more a refund of unused flight" seems contradictory and post facto.


But let's relate this back to LM in general (and a mod can copy and split / edit this post as necessary). Again, I come from the point of view that TG F is acceptable, and usually worth the cost of redemption given that similar options at the same time with the same conditions are rarely available nor necessarily more desirable. Is it a fantastic First Class product? In my opinion, no. If you've never flown First Class before, I can confidently say that you'll be in for a treat. If I had to recommend a First Class product to a friend who had seen and done some before, I might not recommend TG first and foremost. But TG F is quite readily available and usually easily booked online (thankfully)... well, for me not having to originate from Australia, it seems alright, but from Australia may be different.

Note though that other *A search engines will suggest there is usually more award seating (in both TG Business and First) than what would be suggested online by LM; in fact, it's quite common to have:
  • Nil availability on TG J/F on a given day according to LM, but availability according to another Star Alliance airline's search engine.
  • Nil availability on TG flight unless searched as part of a combination or lack thereof, e.g. availability on TG F LHR-BKK and then another search shows BKK-NRT also available, but trying to search LHR-NRT (via BKK) shows nothing. Here, screenshot method is required, or bite the bullet and book two awards at a higher cost.
One thing also notable is a hunch only, which is that searching for seats, selecting that seat and proceeding to the next page where you can vary the cost in miles and cash (and see the applicable taxes) actually temporarily holds that seat for you. If I execute a search like this, then go back to the beginning and run the exact same search again, the seat which I had selected before interrupting the process appears to not show up (in the case where there may be only one such seat left to start with, the next search would show nothing available). Wait a little while, and if no one else has jumped on the seat, it will come back.

Maybe I read the article incorrectly but he was talking about HKG? TG ground benefits are typically BKK only and anywhere else is a luxury. My parents received a buggy ride when flying into LHR T2 but that was surprising, rather than expected.
 
re: Avianca "Life Miles" - Questions and Discussion

I once did not get a buggy upon arrival into BKK but we were at a gate that was literally meters away from immigration, we did get a host to expedite our arrival process though. Also departing BKK we have never had the buggy from lounge to gate though had had escorts all the time except the once we left on our own accord as we wanted to wander a bit first. Never had the buggy when departing HKG the last three times in the past two years. That said, I love Thai Airways' generosity with F awards - definitely makes my journey smooth as silk (compared to slumming it in the best J cabin or even shock horror, Y).
 
Re: Avianca Life Miles - post your SUCCESSFUL award bookings here

It's on the actual receipt.

Click on "View" in the last column, and then when the receipt displays, look at the middle of the bottom line of either the top or bottom half of the receipt.
Whenever I try to look at receipts I get a blank page. I can see the list of transactions, but click on 'View" and I get nothing but white space on a page.. tried Firefox and Chrome.
 
Re: Avianca Life Miles - post your SUCCESSFUL award bookings here

Whenever I try to look at receipts I get a blank page. I can see the list of transactions, but click on 'View" and I get nothing but white space on a page.. tried Firefox and Chrome.

Yes that was my problem, thought it may have just been me.

Fortunately Avianca replied overnight and resent the confirmation for me which was good.
 
Re: Avianca Life Miles - post your SUCCESSFUL award bookings here

Yes that was my problem, thought it may have just been me.

Fortunately Avianca replied overnight and resent the confirmation for me which was good.


I just tried IE and was able to see the receipts.
 
re: Avianca "Lifemiles" - Questions and Discussion

A very simple one:
Sydney - Bangkok -Sydney. Going this weekend, coming back nex weekend
1 PAX, in F, 120K + 134 USD.
Got an email confirmation straight away but can't see the ticket number on checkmytrip yet -:(
 
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