Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[oznflfan]

WA Health has reported two new local COVID-19 cases and seven travel-related cases

Both cases are believed to have been infectious in the community.

one day these infections will take off..............................................probably after 5/2/22 knowing WA luck

 

[oz_mark]

I’m guessing none linked to one of the two clusters - Delta backpacker or Omicron Hyatt HQ leak.

I don't know if they have said. Just that they were linked to previous cases.

one day these infections will take off..............................................probably after 5/2/22 knowing WA luck

While they will go up after 5/2, I'm expecting a surge just in time for Australia Day

 

[exceladdict]

Question:
The elderly who died from Covid - by how much was their life expectancy shortened by Covid?

I understand probably around a year, given age and diagnosis. I believe they were not in need of acute care until the infection.

I wonder how much longer we have to endure daily case reports…. I wonder when they will be phased out, couldn’t we move to weekly soon

Well, coronacast is weekly now, though I figure that will be back to daily soon.

one day these infections will take off..............................................probably after 5/2/22 knowing WA luck

Based on exposure sites it looks like one was a masseuse who worked for a week while potentially infectious. I think the run of luck might be close to its end.

 

[oz_mark]

Based on exposure sites it looks like one was a masseuse who worked for a week while potentially infectious. I think the run of luck might be close to its end.

Press release was a bit telling COVID-19 update - U Natural Spa Therapy - 15 January 2022

This location has been visited by multiple COVID cases.


In the seven day-window, only 11 people used the SafeWA app to register their attendance at U Natural Spa and Therapy.


WA Health believes dozens of other people would have attended this business during this time.

 

[jakeseven7]

one day these infections will take off..............................................probably after 5/2/22 knowing WA luck

The fact they have ongoing transmission, and missing close contacts in the wind quite probably means it is circulating unchecked at infection numbers higher than detected. But what does it really matter anymore I guess.

 

[Pushka]

The fact they have ongoing transmission, and missing close contacts in the wind quite probably means it is circulating unchecked at infection numbers higher than detected. But what does it really matter anymore I guess.

Maybe that's why some Health people ban RAT. As soon as they are used by people without the threat of being officially recorded then numbers of positives increase. I'm wondering why there were 11 check-ins to a massage parlour though.

Apparently SA will peak by 25 Jan. My thoughts then - what happens next? We have tight family restrictions and public venues very reduced. In March we have significant public events - Fringe Festival etc that somehow always escape the restrictions.

 

[jakeseven7]

A sobering perspective…

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Why Covid-19 will never become endemic​

For most of the pandemic Australia has worked to contain the virus through evidence-based public health measures such as border closures, case finding, contact tracing, quarantine, social distancing, vaccines and, at times, lockdown.

Sadly, the weaponisation of lockdown as a pointscoring issue and emotional trigger has led to a conflation of lockdown with all other public health measures, most of which do not impinge on freedoms.

Denial is a major theme during the pandemic. Denial of airborne transmission, denial of science, denial of Omicron being serious and denial about what it really means to “live with Covid-19”.

Why Covid-19 will never become endemic

For most of the pandemic Australia has worked to contain the virus through evidence-based public health measures such as border closures, case finding, contact tracing, quarantine, social distancing, vaccines and, at times, lockdown. Sadly, the weaponisation of lockdown as a pointscoring issue...

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

 

[Lynda2475]

However if Raina MacIntyre had her way we would all be locked down indefinitely. She loves all the media attention the pandemic has given her, and has never once been positive in any interview. When i see her or Mary Louise Mcleod, time to tune out.

Raina claims "there is low awareness among the general public of the importance of ventilation and masks in reducing their personal risk", but is there really? Many wearing masks even where its not mamdated, air purifiers selling at levels not seen pre pandemic.

Has she ever bothered to consider that fear messaging is in part responsible for overwhelming some aspects of health system. An article on ABC has paramedics in Qld complaining about numpties with mild symptoms calling 000 and clogging system. Why do they do that? Because "experts" like Raina keep fear messaging circulating.

In the long list of complaints re what hasnt been perfect, notice Raina never mentioned all the epidemiologist predictions that were wildly inaccurate. No consideration given to the mental health and other poor health outcomes due to extended lockdowns and non sensical domestic border closures. Perhaps if all government responses had been consistently proportionate and her predictions remotely accurate, people would be more open to keep deferring living.

Raina claims "defeatist messaging" from government, yet this whole article is defeatest.

Raina claims nothing has been done to expedite boosters, despit fact the timeframe has been reduced from 6 to 5 to 4 and shortly 3 months. She complains about % boosted, but overall not qualified in terms of eligibility.

Her MO is to criticise and spread doom and gloom to maintain her media profile, she obviously loves all the extra interview income this pandemic has sen her way.

 

[Lynda2475]

ICU numbers down today

 

[drron]

Here is a counter argument to that Saturday Paper opinion piece.

We can't stop COVID, but we can end the pandemic: Dr. Jay Bhattacharya

Since we have no technology to eradicate the virus, we must learn to live with it. The fear-based lockdown policies of the past two years are no template for a healthy society.

www.dailymail.co.uk

My message is this: we can’t stop the spread of COVID, but we can end the pandemic.

In October 2020, I wrote the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD) along with Prof. Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University and Prof. Martin Kulldorff of Harvard University.

The centerpiece of the declaration is a call for increased focused protection of the vulnerable older population, who are more than a thousand times more likely to die from COVID infection than the young.

 

[Lynda2475]

Dr Irani Thevarajan, an infectious diseases physician who works in hospitals and for Doherty was just interviewed on the ABC, she said that majority of those in hospital with Omicron are actually presenting for other reasons (primary reason for hospitalisation is not covid), this is in contrast to Delta where often it was primary cause for admission. Also that the majority in ICU are still not fully vaccinated.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

and it actually stated unvaccinated plus delta, yet you keep ignoring those ICU cases which arent fully vaccinated.

You do not seem to understand that an unvaccinated case is actually an omicron case or delta case.

I included all cases. The report by Dr Chant was of all covid cases in ICU. The unvaccinated and partly vaccinated are included as they too will either be Omicron or Delta Cases.


It actually said "or" and not "plus". But either way what you have just stated makes no sense.

The "unvaccinated" Covid cases will be infected by either Delta or Omicron variants. There is no separate additional "unvaccinated" category and whether they are vaccinated or not is just their vaccination status

So unvaccinated people who have Covid in the ICU will 100% have been infected by either Omicron or Delta.

You do not have Omicron Cases, Delta Cases and "Unvaccinated" Cases.

 

[Quickstatus]

You won’t a quicker nurse response than that

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Abc blog

Victoria has recorded 13 deaths​

There are 1,114 people in hospital, including 122 in ICUs.

The state recorded 28,128 new cases.

 

[Lynda2475]

You do not seem to understand that an unvaccinated case is actually an omicron case or delta case.

I stated the majority (not all) of cases in ICU were delta OR unvaccinated, you keep trying to debate facts not in play. If you remove the unvaccinated ICU patients of either variant who have done naught to help themselves, then of the vaccinated more delta than omicron in ICU.

It is you that does not want to accept that the unvaccinated were always going to have coughpier outcomes, therefore the variant they have is irrelevant to the point i was making. The number we need to watch is vaccinated in hospital and ICU because of covid not simply with covid.

A vaccinated person getting mild ccovid shouldn't be of any concern, that means the vaccine has done its job.

Unvaccinated people chose to accept risk of getting a severe covid infection, ive no time for the stupid.

Vaccinated people hospitalised soley due to covid (not primarily for other underlying health conditions like cancer or suicide or a car accident, who just happen to have covid) are the canneries in the coal mine we need to concerned with. And these cases are declining as a percentage of positives, whilst unvaccinated and those breakthrough delta cases are over represented in ICU.

Stop attributing arguments to me which i didnt make because you misread what is actually written not in the least part due to your motivation to disagree with anything i say.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

ABC blog

Tasmania records drop in hospitalisations, cases​

There are now eight people in hospital being treated for COVID-related illness, down from 10. One person remains in intensive care.

The state has recorded 825 new cases of COVID-19, over 300 less than yesterday.

There are 6,485 active cases across Tasmania after 1,448 people were released from isolation yesterday.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Abc blog

Half of those in ICU in NSW are unvaccinated​

Premier Dominic Perrottet is up now.

He says half of the 191 people currently in intensive care in NSW hospitals are unvaccinated.

"At a time when we have a population right across New South Wales, [a] 95 per cent vaccination rate, here in our state we have 50 per cent of people in ICU who are unvaccinated," he says.

"So the evidence, the facts are very, very clear. Vaccination helps protect you and your family and your friends and the wider community. So please continue to make that effort."

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

ABC blog

Queensland has recorded three COVID deaths​

One of those was a person in their 60s, one in their 80s and one aged 103.

Two had receive a single dose of a COVID vaccine, and one was fully vaccinated.

There are 670 patients in hospital, including 49 in ICU.

There were 17,445 cases of COVID recorded overnight, with 4,615 of those detected via rapid antigen test.

 

[Lynda2475]

He says half of the 191 people currently in intensive care in NSW hospitals are unvaccinated.

Yep and not all of the other half are omicron, so my point proven yet again.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

VIC: 'This variant gets past two doses'​

Let's cross to Victoria, where Premier Daniel Andrews is breaking down some of the booster figures.

As it stands, 23 per cent of those aged over 18 have received three doses.

Mr Andrews says it's not a case of "two doses and a bonus".

"Because of this variant, it really is three doses as an absolute core requirement to stop transmission," he says.

"We know that two doses has been very successful in preventing, in the vast majority of cases, really significant illness, people getting desperately unwell.

"But the transmission as we can see from case numbers... this variant gets past two doses, but there is significant benefit and a reduction in the number of cases... once you've had a third dose."

- courtesy abc blog