Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[MEL_Traveller]

And how on earth is that scenario any different to the thousands of actually positive people in NSW currently at home? There is no difference at all except the returned traveller is not positive until they return a positive test!

Because they could have a new variant. Locally acquired covid we know which strain it will be. What if returned person brings in super strain which only shows up three days after arrival? In the meantime some of those people will have been out and about in the community.

Hopefully when home Q is introduced there will be some safeguards in place to try and prevent this happening.

 

[Must...Fly!]

The mental health side of the pandemic for under 18s got a run today. Very depressing figures.

NSW COVID: Mental health crisis as self-harm presentations surge during lockdown

amp.smh.com.au

 

[OATEK]

Because they could have a new variant. Locally acquired covid we know which strain it will be. What if returned person brings in super strain which only shows up three days after arrival? In the meantime some of those people will have been out and about in the community.

Hopefully when home Q is introduced there will be some safeguards in place to try and prevent this happening.

Why will they be out in the community if isolating at home for 2 weeks like a "positive", and having checks from Police/ADF?

 

[Pushka]

Because they could have a new variant. Locally acquired covid we know which strain it will be. What if returned person brings in super strain which only shows up three days after arrival? In the meantime some of those people will have been out and about in the community.

Hopefully when home Q is introduced there will be some safeguards in place to try and prevent this happening.

Did you miss the part where I said returned travellers would be in home quarantine for a total of 14 days?

 

[jase05]

1218 in NSW
6 deaths, 4 of those unvaccinated

 

[Must...Fly!]

IANAD, but as a health professional, this is not what I signed up for. When I started work, I worked a 9to5 job. we did not work 24/7. We did a small amount of on-call work for overnights, but now you are expected to agree to work 24/7 to get a job. Some people might say that's just the product of a changing economy, but if I had known this would be expected of me when I started, and the toll it would take on my body, I would have chosen another job.

Getting back to doctors treating covid patients and the toll it takes, they didn't sign up for that either. They certainly didn't sign up to having to work double shifts or work for weeks on end because there are not enough staff to take care of the massive numbers of patients that are needing care and the lack of qualified staff to look after them. My own colleagues and I did not expect to be split in two groups in case someone in one group got covid, there would still be enough of us to provide the required service to the hospital while the other group was furloughed awaiting covid test results.

There are going to be a lot of front line workers abandoning their medical jobs because of burnout and overwork, and telling them to "suck it up, princess" is not helpful to them and quite frankly, nobody with that attitude should be managing staff in any situation, let alone a highly stressful and unusual one like Delta.

Thanks for this reply. I feel it's the case for a lot of workers and not just those in medicine, though they obviously deal with the sharp end of it. There is a lot of additional risk, particularly those who work in essential services in confined environments (e.g. office with no windows, underground, etc) or in institutions such as prisons where services must be delivered and order maintained, regardless of the personal risk to the person working. None of it is ideal.

 

[justinbrett]

1218 in NSW
6 deaths, 4 of those unvaccinated

Has to be said NSW has confirmed it is including people dying "with" covid, and that many people die from other causes but have covid - it's just too difficult to attribute one or the other, so reporting "with" instead of "of" is easier.

So death stats should be taken with appropriate measures of salt, especially when they are in the low range.

 

[SydneySwan]

I think the most relevant stat from todays NSW presser was 126 in ICU of which;

113 - no jab
12 - one jab
1 - two jabs.

Get vaccinated.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I think the most relevant stat from todays NSW presser was 126 in ICU of which;

113 - no jab
12 - one jab
1 - two jabs.

Get vaccinated.

Did the fully jabbed patient just appear today? Any demographics, medical history provided on the fuly jabbed patient?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic Presser: 92 cases

44 in hospital; 13 in ICU and 9 on ventilators

Jeroen Weimar

Cases

63 of the 92 cases are "clearly linked".
Majority of cases are in the north and west of Melbourne

• 9-Shepparton
• 12-Broadmeadows
• 12-Newport
• 9 household contacts of various school outbreaks
• 4-Altona Nth Woolworths
• 1-City apartment complex
• 1-Port Melbourne Cluster found yesterday (4 yesterday).
• 15 linked to other recent cases
• 29 are under investigation

There is one new case in a person from Traralgon (Gippsland). They were infected when they attended a funeral in Melbourne

 

[SydneySwan]

Did the fully jabbed patient just appear today? Any demographics, medical history provided on the fuly jabbed patient?

Not sure. No further info was provided.

 

[justinbrett]

Did the fully jabbed patient just appear today? Any demographics, medical history provided on the fuly jabbed patient?

Sky reported it was a nurse with an unrelated medical condition who had asked not to be assigned to covid duties

 

[OATEK]

Did the fully jabbed patient just appear today? Any demographics, medical history provided on the fuly jabbed patient?

Not really, but there was a statement about how the vaccines are not perfect and there are sometimes break-through infections.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Sky reported it was a nurse with an unrelated medical condition who had asked not to be assigned to covid duties

Just checking because of a previous instance of conjecture - reporting, not tweeting???

 

[justinbrett]

Just checking because of a previous instance of conjecture - reporting, not tweeting???

It was not a personal tweet, no, that's not reporting.

This was on TV this morning, reporting.

It's sad people don't see the difference.

 

[oznflfan]

Why will they be out in the community if isolating at home for 2 weeks like a "positive", and having checks from Police/ADF?

Hey, quiet with the 14 days cough, fully vaccinated 7 days is what is being discussed and a worst case for me.

 

[Pushka]

Hey, quiet with the 14 days cough, fully vaccinated 7 days is what is being discussed and a worst case for me.

Just trying to cover off ‘an objection’.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Did you miss the part where I said returned travellers would be in home quarantine for a total of 14 days?

At the moment we don't have a reliable way to track people. We know from the start of the pandemic when we initially allowed home Q that lots of people weren't compliant. Yes there are visits by police/ADF/authorised officers, but there are still cases where people aren't at home. Just takes one of those to have a new variant.

Once we have tracking - either via phone or some sort of bracelet it might act as a deterrent.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

It was not a personal tweet, no, that's not reporting.

This was on TV this morning, reporting.

It's sad people don't see the difference.

You might say that by in other realms journalists' tweets have got their employers in trouble......bygones.

 

[justinbrett]

You might say that by in other realms journalists' tweets have got their employers in trouble......bygones.

I've heard ABC is cracking down on what their journos put on social media