Article: Single-Aisle Planes Are the Future of Qantas' Fleet

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The Qantas Group recently placed a huge order with Airbus that will see up to 311 new aircraft delivered to the company over the next decade. Of those, just 12 planes will be twin-aisle aircraft.

 
It was widely reported that in Aug last year that QF has initiated a competition for the A330 replacements. A330neo, A350 or B787 variants being tossed around.

But yeah, expect more narrow body medium haul in the future. Maybe dust off a couple of B707s….
 
Qantas haven't said what's replacing the A330s yet, and are still to go to market. Worth noting that the 767s were partly replaced by A330s and partly by 737s,.
Certainly expect more A321s flying into SE Asia.
 
Agree with the posts above, Qantas always had way more narrow bodies by pure numbers and they seem to be keenly aware of this future gap. Given they will use their A380s for many years to come still, I just don’t think that it’s seen as such an urgent issue yet.

In terms of comfort, back in Why life is hell no matter what aircraft type. While up the front, I don’t have any issues with a proper full flat seat but in a single aisle aircraft. The times I have flown AA’s A321 Transcon, it has been perfectly fine, both in F and J (one of the very few US Domestic configs which actually differentiates between the two).
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Unfortunately, in the future we'll be offered a long flight in business with recliners only.
Oh, on coughstar and Air Asia X for sure, that’s nothing new! ;)
 
Fortunately, I know nothing about that, and don't intend on learning about it on Qantas either. I once did a bit over 5 hours on an A320 on S7. The novelty of S7 quickly wore off.
Luckily, Qantas wouldn't be so silly and destroy the main differentiator towards their own budget offering at coughstar. I don't see this happen on anything longer than maybe PER-SIN- I suspect those single aisle planes without fully flat seats to be used rather on Domestic routes to Perth and maybe to the Pacific islands and NZ but nothing much further than that.
 
Luckily, Qantas wouldn't be so silly and destroy the main differentiator towards their own budget offering at coughstar.

At the risk of creating a massive collective eyeroll that might turn AFF sideways, I'd say they are already on the way to doing that. :)
 
At the risk of creating a massive collective eyeroll that might turn AFF sideways, I'd say they are already on the way to doing that. :)
What makes you say that- the trans-Tasman? They've used those awful 737s for a long time on that route. It's very different from going all the way to Asia in my opinion and is not going to happen, especially not on premium routes with lots of competition like HKG or SIN. No way.
 
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What makes you say that- the trans-Tasman? They've used those awful 737s for a long time on that route. It's very different from going all the way to Asia in my opinion and is not going to happen, especially not on premium routes with lots of competition like HKG or SIN. No way.
Unfortunately, VA have set a low bar with the relaunch of HND flights in a B737 bouncing through CNS.
 
Unfortunately, VA have set a low bar with the relaunch of HND flights in a B737 bouncing through CNS.
In my eyes, VA keeps setting very low bars left right and centre. Not least ordering the murder Max :rolleyes: :oops:
 
I'd say there is a fair bit of water to go under the bridge yet on QF's A330 replacement.

I agree that it's likely there will be a net increase in narrowbodies flying mid-haul, but this may not be as widespread, per capita, to and from Australia as it is in the transatlantic market. While the A321N is a really capable frame, it is still a narrowbody and this creates a few constraints.

The biggest issue is that most of the big city pairs between the Australian east coast and Asia carry huge volumes of belly freight. CGK, SIN, HKG, MNL and BKK for example are all big freight ports for QF. Harder to make this work in the smaller and fewer containers carried in the A321 with the same fixed costs at either end. Freight makes up something like 30% of QF's revenue across the network - most of this is carried under the floor and a big portion of it between Australia and Asia.

There is also an issue with competitive disadvantage in the premium cabins. Narrowbodies can accommodate better products now than they used to, but the cabin footprint still doesn't suit direct aisle access for every passenger in J (without reverting to the reverse herringbone). QF has also said they're not looking at anything beyond a recliner for the A321, which is a big step back from even the better products that are possible on the narrowbody.

It'll be interesting to see what J seat VA put in their new 737s. Regardless it's unlikely they'll be able to prise the high yields between Japan and SYD/MEL away from QF, NH and JL. I expect VA will use their service to funnel a bunch of lower yield from around Australia onto their CNS-HND, probably cutting JQ's lunch in the process, hoping to hold onto the HND slot with minimum pain.
 
What makes you say that- the trans-Tasman? They've used those awful 737s for a long time on that route. It's very different from going all the way to Asia in my opinion and is not going to happen, especially not on premium routes with lots of competition like HKG or SIN. No way.

I was meaning all the other LCC stuff they are doing. Sorry, off topic :)

You must be reading different press releases, as all the LH and ULH routes have lie flat business seats.

Sure, but I think what I wrote will still be realised:

Unfortunately, in the future we'll be offered a long flight in business with recliners only.

And anyway, do you believe everything Qantas puts in its press releases?
 
Qantas-bashers
Most of us are not binary in our views. because I criticise QF does not make me a QF hater. It is also true those who don't criticise QF are not necessarily fanbois. Hmm, actually maybe they are....

I'm somewhere in between. There is a lot that QF should be called out for.
 
I'm somewhere in between. There is a lot that QF should be called out for.
Oh- totally agree and you’ll find plenty of whinge about Qantas from myself across this forum (none of my beloved hot towels on the trans-Tasmans anymore, what a disaster!!!).

But suggesting that Qantas will phase out lie flat seats on their mid range routes is neither factual nor backed by any of their statements or publicly available plans.

Was the ginger chicken the other day absolutely vile? Yes, and I’ve had a moan on the Qantas food thread about it already. Is the service from their off shore call centres bad? It surely is, I am so fed up with it that I put the phone down unless I’m close to certain to have landed in Hobart or Auckland. But does all this mean that Qantas generally sucks? Not in my experience, rather the opposite. I usually enjoy flying with them and lot of their staff are a real pleasure in my eyes.
 

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