Appalling behaviour on planes and airports

[LionKing]

I hope this doesn't cause any controversy here.
What is the most appalling behaviour you have seens on planes and airports in recent years, particularly post-COVID?
I still recall Alan Joyce saying some passengers are not 'game-fit' , and that reminded me a video of a China woman where she talked loudly on a phone before takeoff, another passengers filmed her and that started a quarrel and that video became viral just last few weeks.
Another video I saw another passenger refused to swap seats with another passenger who had a paid seat selection, and the man simply 'accidentally' splash' liquid at the other passenger mid-flight.
What can we do as frequent flyers help to diffuse these appalling passenger behaviour?

 

[Pushka]

I think I've been lucky given I've travelled back from Bali on Jetstar at midnight. But the thing that sticks in my mind was in J and a guy was walking up and down the aisle brushing his teeth

What did I do? Cover up my eyes with a bandana (I have a Survivor one), turned over and went to sleep trying to scrub the image.

 

[AIRwin]

But the thing that sticks in my mind was in J and a guy was walking up and down the aisle brushing his teeth

He didn't want to hog the lavatory?

 

[Pushka]

He didn't want to hog the lavatory?

Maybe, but the walking past people was classic. But I think he was just a jerk.

 

[Warks]

My s-i-l on a flight to the US reclined her seat at night (not during meal service) and the guy behind decided to pour his drink on her. Well I don't know what happened to him but my s-i-l got upgraded to Business.

 

[offshore171]

The DYKWIA stuff is usually pretty appalling.

 

[LionKing]

My s-i-l on a flight to the US reclined her seat at night (not during meal service) and the guy behind decided to pour his drink on her. Well I don't know what happened to him but my s-i-l got upgraded to Business.

That's common assault isn't it?

 

[Quickstatus]

What can we do as frequent flyers help to diffuse these appalling passenger behaviour?

I would not immediately assume that frequent flyers are always the best behaved.

That's common assault isn't it?

Could be both assault and battery.

 

[SeatBackForward]

I would not immediately assume that frequent flyers are always the best behaved.

Anecdotally, they do seem to be the ones who seem most entitled.

 

[Quickstatus]

they do seem to be the ones who seem most entitled.

Class of cabin is not necessarily correlated to class of behaviour either

 

[LionKing]

Class of cabin is not necessarily correlated to class of behaviour either

But I was wondering more why those assaults happen in Economy more than Business/First?

 

[Aussie_flyer]

But I was wondering more why those assaults happen in Economy more than Business/First?

Well theres more economy passengers than business/first on any given flight generally

 

[SeatBackForward]

But I was wondering more why those assaults happen in Economy more than Business/First?

Less shoulder to shoulder, reclining into space issues.

I daresay there's also a generational issue where people in general just have a more DYKWIA / Entitlement attitude these days, so naturally where there's more people, there will be this type of bheaviour.

 

[Katie]

Not truly appalling, but it left me absolutely speechless for a minute or two. Can't remember if I've mentioned this one on AFF.

Boarding an AA flight PIT-LAX, I was in group 2, so already boarded and in my Y seat, settling in, hoping for the middle seat shadow to stick. The hordes continue to board, and there's a woman on speaker phone in the aisle.

She says to her conversation partner: "I know you f&*$ed her before you f&*$ed me."

I come off as prudish, but I'm not really, but that out loud statement for the whole plane to hear left me gobsmacked.
The man near me commented "I didn't even need to start a movie". Another man behind us "I didn't know we were on Spirit airlines".

 

[Quickstatus]

But I was wondering more why those assaults happen in Economy more than Business/First?

I don't know the statistics. My point is that stratifying behaviour according to class is very problematic in the wider sense and I would not want to be in a society which enforces a social hierachy which discriminates according to some arbitrary construct.

 

[odysseus]

But I was wondering more why those assaults happen in Economy more than Business/First?

There's often 10x the number of passengers in Economy compared to Business. Just to keep in line you'd expect the number of incidents to be proportionally similar, and then you've got the matter of easier, closer contact that would make it more likely for disturbances to occur e.g. more visibility, need to pass to get to e.g. bathroom, less personal space.

 

[LionKing]

There's often 10x the number of passengers in Economy compared to Business. Just to keep in line you'd expect the number of incidents to be proportionally similar, and then you've got the matter of easier, closer contact that would make it more likely for disturbances to occur e.g. more visibility, need to pass to get to e.g. bathroom, less personal space.

That's quite true. I am not suggesting particular group of passengers, however I was thinking whether there's need to be some sort of education for passengers on board in the safety video about inflight ettique to prevent incidents happen. For example I cannot understand why people would like to splash drinks onto others because of reclining seats etc.

 

[Forg]

That's quite true. I am not suggesting particular group of passengers, however I was thinking whether there's need to be some sort of education for passengers on board in the safety video about inflight ettique to prevent incidents happen. For example I cannot understand why people would like to splash drinks onto others because of reclining seats etc.

The offenders know they’re offending … they do it with the purpose of annoying … they don’t need to be informed at all, they already know.

At least Recliners are mostly oblivious to the suffering they’re causing. Being oblivious to how much you’re negatively affecting all around you isn’t great, but it’s better than doing something that’s intended to offend!