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ANZ Frequent Flyer Black Card (NEW)

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zainman

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Thanks for posting this.

I have the normal rewards black and I would prefer that because you earn more Velocity points per dollar on the Visa plus you can transfer to SQ/CX. While QFF points are still valuable, their fuel surcharges on award bookings are really high. I've made a number of bookings on EY using VA points and the availability seems to be better than EK/QF and the surcharges are reasonable.
 

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I could probably justify the annual fee if it was 1 pt/$ on the Visa as well as 1.5 pt/$ on AMEX... it's a bit tough without it though.

Will stick my cheap (grandfathered) ANZ Plat for AMEX and WOW/Macquarie Plat for MC/Visa spend.
 

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Looks similar to what the very first ANZ FF card offered back in the 1990's -- except this has a $300 higher annual fee and less QFF per $ ;P
 
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The 1.5pt/$ on Amex is same as Plat...but the 0.75pt/$ on the Visa is a bit of a let-down.

It does waive the joining fee for Qantas club though (which is $370 atm) and using this card, QC membership is $400/year (probably why no sign-on bonus)...it's also got 2 QC passes included per year.

I do agree though, 1pt/$ on Visa and I would have switched with closed eyes.

So far the only non-Amex I've seen with 1pt/$ is HSBC QF Platinum and Macquarie Visa Platinum QF.
 

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So far the only non-Amex I've seen with 1pt/$ is HSBC QF Platinum and Macquarie Visa Platinum QF.
Based on the QF site, these also do (I don't have all these cards - some are subject to capping/have ridiculous annual fees):

Citi Sig/Select
Suncorp Clear Options Platinum
Woolworths Everyday Rewards Qantas Card
FF Diners Club Card with World Mastercard (Diners 1.5 pt/$ MC 1 pt/$)
Jetstar Platinum Card
Investex Signature
Qantas CU Platinum
 

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I suppose if you're part of their Private Banking or file a claim with the financial ombudsman.
 

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I suppose if you're part of their Private Banking or file a claim with the financial ombudsman.
Ombudsman for what? If you sign up to the card, you accept the T&Cs including the fee.

They will likely waive the fee if you're a private banking client, but that is strictly YMMV.
 

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If this card had a deeper discount on QC membership, it would be a definite go-to.

It does include Veloce lounge membership (not as wide as PP) and waives the join fee on QP, but a discount of more than $85/yr on membership would be welcome too...
 

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cross post from the bonus offer thread but i figure it's useful information here:

Finished going through my welcome pack, few things of note.

Points


  • No points for government charges (not ATO friendly)
  • Appears to pay points for ultilities, bpay & insurance (will test all of these soon enough)
  • Visa (black) earns 0.75 ppd & Amex (black) earns 1.5 ppd, unlike other banks there appears to be no additional points made for overseas transactions.


Travel


  • Overseas transaction fees are 3% on both the visa and the amex, applicable to any transaction made with an overseas merchant, regardless of the currency, i.e. AUD transactions made overseas will still incur this 3% fee.
  • According to my letter of offer : "Your card is currently exempt from overseas cash advance fees", I have not noted this on any of my previous CC's (CBA, WBC, Citi) Of course you'd still be stung by the 3% currency conversion. Not horrible by comparison, but still not as good as citi plus
  • Travel insurance kicks in after $250 is spent on any prepaid part of the trip (airfare/hotel/cars/other transport) which would be pretty easy to meet.
  • 2 Qantas club passes on request, need to phone the concierge to claim these
  • Enrolment into the veloce program for unlimited lounge access at a number of overseas lounges for the primary and additional card holders. Additional cardholders are free in the first year


Cards themselves


  • Chip & contactless on both cards (unlike westpac's black offering)
  • The level of the visa is not listed anywhere on the card or in any of the documentation. However a BIN/IIN search on the card reveals that it's a platinum level card for the purpose of visa privileges. For the minimum credit limit, i had expected that it'd be a signature.


Thats about everything interesting I noted.
 

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Thanks for the summary jlien.

I have the about 9 documents from ANZ that arrived today that I hadn't got around to reading.

I am currently paying off a travel agent, I think I'll pay $250 of that on my card just for another insurance option!
 

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  • Travel insurance kicks in after $250 is spent on any prepaid part of the trip (airfare/hotel/cars/other transport) which would be pretty easy to meet..
As I noted in the other ANZ Black thread this is not correct. You need to also hold a return ticket to Australia, and to also meet all other eligibility conditions in the T&C (which most people would).

The return ticket is important as it means that if you do not have it, if you have booked say $5000 of land content and have to cancel, then you will not be covered.
 

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  • Overseas transaction fees are 3% on both the visa and the amex, applicable to any transaction made with an overseas merchant, regardless of the currency, i.e. AUD transactions made overseas will still incur this 3% fee.

I found myself thinking about this when i was making a payment on agoda.
Having AUD selected, I presume i would still be slugged with this 3% surcharge, correct me if i'm wrong.

I then wondered what would happen if I were to use a payment aggregator like paypal. Does this rule now mean that all paypal payments will be surcharged at 3%?
 

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Does anyone know (or been successful) in transferring from a standard ANZ QFF Plat rewards cards to the FF black card?
 
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