Anti-Suitism - how to stop the discrimination???

[Mal]

Currently at 80 pairs of cufflinks and still growing the collection... $500 for a master cufflink cabinet though was a tough pill to swallow...

Decent selection. Mine are around 10 but as I don't wear cuffs often they are rarely used it is an appropriate number.

My fave of course is plane related...


Sent from my GT-I9100 using AustFreqFly

 

[QF WP]

Gee, I'm feeling humbled with my 20 - but I do count a Concorde pair as my favorites along with an opal pair.

My f-i-l will knock one up for you a lot cheaper simongr, he's brilliant.

 

[awilcockson]

I own a pair of F-111 cuff links but no shirts with the appropriate holes in the cuffs

 

[JohnK]

I think suits and ties are great and in my time loved wearing both but unfortunately these days the frame is not conducive to wearing suits.

Since we are on anti-everything I have very little respect for those who cannot be bothered to look neat when out out in public and more so in the office.

And I have no respect for those who cannot be bothered to be considerate to those around them. And this includes talking on a phone or people talking to each other loud enough for me to hear 5-10 yards away. I am not interested in what you have to say. I think some people do not understand the concept of not shouting during conversations in public and is worse when people go out in groups.

 

[samiam]

It's only pretty old school companies that still have suit and tie... A dying breed!

I'm taking the above on face value, as I'm not entirely certain how this applies outside my own sphere of experience.

Do only 'old school companies' require a suit and tie?

Is the wearing of a suit and tie representative of a dying breed?

Is this dress code truly in the minority?

Aside from possibly some relaxation around casual Fridays, or maybe taking the tie off if there are no external meetings, IMO it's more commonplace then not - then perhaps I just hang around in the wrong circles?

 

[medhead]

I'm taking the above on face value, as I'm not entirely certain how this applies outside my own sphere of experience.

Do only 'old school companies' require a suit and tie?

Is the wearing of a suit and tie representative of a dying breed?

I was going to let that go. My employer is owed by a dying breed. But it is the new breed, they are bringing in to take over, that told me to wear a tie and/or suit.


Sent from my iPhone using Aust Freq Fly app so please excuse the lack of links.

 

[Reggie]

that told me to wear a tie and/or suit.

Did they also mandate clean shaven, no facial piercings, minimum skirt length and nail polish colours for the ladies (oh and the metrosexual men)?

I have worked on minesites where for safety reasons you must be cleanshaven, could not wear jewelry, with specific mention to rings, long sleeves, long pants and safety boots. However told to wear a suit is not due to safety?

I'd be looking for either a suit allowance or another job.

 

[medhead]

I have worked on minesites where for safety reasons you must be cleanshaven, could not wear jewelry, with specific mention to rings, long sleeves, long pants and safety boots. However told to wear a suit is not due to safety?

I'd be looking for either a suit allowance or another job.

A certain standard of dress goes with my role, so I'm not bothered. I was just happy not to have to wear a uniform like most of the staff.

But I am kind of considering another job, at a minesite that requires clean shaven. :shock:


Sent from my iPhone using Aust Freq Fly app so please excuse the lack of links.

 

[ozmille]

But I am kind of considering another job, at a minesite that requires clean shaven. :shock:

Oh no I couldn't, I like my facial hair especially with my current Mo for Movember

 

[simongr]

Having worked in the food industry the rings thing has been known to me - although a wedding band was permitted...

Did they also mandate clean shaven, no facial piercings, minimum skirt length and nail polish colours for the ladies (oh and the metrosexual men)?

I have worked on minesites where for safety reasons you must be cleanshaven, could not wear jewelry, with specific mention to rings, long sleeves, long pants and safety boots. However told to wear a suit is not due to safety?

I'd be looking for either a suit allowance or another job.

A certain standard of dress goes with my role, so I'm not bothered. I was just happy not to have to wear a uniform like most of the staff.

But I am kind of considering another job, at a minesite that requires clean shaven. :shock:

How is a lack of being clean shaven a safety issue? Do beards spontaneously combust?

 

[medhead]

Having worked in the food industry the rings thing has been known to me - although a wedding band was permitted...


How is a lack of being clean shaven a safety issue? Do beards spontaneously combust?

I've seen too many pictures of de-gloved fingers to think even wedding bands are a good idea.

Facial hair can prevent a proper seal when wearing respirators. However, a total ban on facial hair is a bit misleading as the fit is the most important issue. A Mo is not going to, necessarily, prevent a good seal on a respirator. But it tends to be easier to just ban facial hair than to fit test employees.


Sent from my iPhone using Aust Freq Fly app so please excuse the lack of links.

 

[straitman]

I've seen too many pictures of de-gloved fingers to think even wedding bands are a good idea.

Agree. I have nearly come to grief with this one.

Facial hair can prevent a proper seal when wearing respirators. However, a total ban on facial hair is a bit misleading as the fit is the most important issue. A Mo is not going to, necessarily, prevent a good seal on a respirator. But it tends to be easier to just ban facial hair than to fit test employees.

Interesting as it was and I assume still is OK for Navy pilots to have a beard whilst wearing an oxygen mask when flying a jet. As medhead points out though, individual fitting is the key.

(I now have to go off and do some soul searching as I'm struggling with the concept of medhead and I agreeing on something. :shock

 

[Timtammi]

$500 for a master cufflink cabinet

Simongr, this sounds interesting as I'm looking for a present for my very difficult to buy for DH and he has lots of cufflinks (most of which he leaves lying around all over the place!). Do you have a link?

Cheers

Timmi

 

[medhead]

Agree. I have nearly come to grief with this one.

I've even given myself a nasty cut on a car door due to a wedding band.

Interesting as it was and I assume still is OK for Navy pilots to have a beard whilst wearing an oxygen mask when flying a jet. As medhead points out though, individual fitting is the key.

Really not my area but I might guess the difference is due to what they're trying to achieve in both cases. With a pilot (i assume) you want to add oxygen to the air, and do so by pumping it into the mask. So a *bit* of leakage of contaminant free outside air might not be a problem as most (90+%) of the inhaled volume will come from the proper source. :?:

Whereas a respirator in mining/processing has to filter dirty air full of noxious gases. So a bit of leakage via a lower resistance flow path, compared to the filter, could create more problems.

Edit: easy to agree on factual stuff.

Edit2: just been reminded about positive pressure by PM. My comments here don't apply to positive pressure devices. Do aircraft use positive pressure for pilots?


Sent from my iPhone using Aust Freq Fly app so please excuse the lack of links.

 

[drron]

Polished shoes are an ABSOLUTE MUST, no matter what you are wearing. There is no excuse for unpolished shoes.

JB

What a concept-polish and shoes in the one sentence.Polished presentation,polished service yes but polished shoes!
Just wear bright clothing and no one picks up what you have on your feet.

 

[simongr]

Simongr, this sounds interesting as I'm looking for a present for my very difficult to buy for DH and he has lots of cufflinks (most of which he leaves lying around all over the place!). Do you have a link?

Cheers

Timmi

I don't have the actual company I sourced it from but this is the item:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mas...,cf.osb&fp=d98391f7096812b4&biw=1920&bih=1006

It was a lot harder to find when I was looking for it... I looked for about three years.

 

[cove]

OK if you must wear a suit just don't start pulling off your jacket in the aisle blocking us getting seated on the plane.
Then drron and I can fail to notice you and you won't feel the eyes of disapproval.....it's as easy as that!
We can tolerate the cuff links,shiny shoes and whatevers that come with the suit.

 

[NM]

I own a pair of F-111 cuff links but no shirts with the appropriate holes in the cuffs

That problem can be easily fixed ... so long as you are not travelling as your scissors would have been confiscated at the security screening checkpoint.

 

[straitman]

Edit2: just been reminded about positive pressure by PM. My comments here don't apply to positive pressure devices. Do aircraft use positive pressure for pilots?

The oxy masks I'm talking about (i.e. high performance a/c) must be capable of positive pressure though not always used with same. I'm not sure about commercial aircraft.

jb747 could answer that for us.

 

[notzac]

Currently at 80 pairs of cufflinks and still growing the collection... $500 for a master cufflink cabinet though was a tough pill to swallow...

Impressive! I'm only up to 20 or so. Love me some shirts with french cuffs.

Work clothing requirement is for professional attire; shirts and slacks is all that's needed. I only suit up if I'm presenting to people outside the company.