Another 747 problem.

[ejb]

Just saw on www.smh.com.au

Qantas flight turns back to Sydney

QF17, which took off from Sydney Airport at 11.11am today with 119 passengers on board, turned around about one hour into the flight to Buenos Aires, a Qantas spokeswoman said.

Seems a very small number of pax also.


ejb

 

[Nigelinoz]

Sydney airport message board is reporting that is was VH-OEI,operating QF17,landed without incident at 13.20.
Syd tower 15/11 - Sydney Airport Message Board

 

[nlagalle]

Yawn... :-| Seriously I am over the reporting of non issues.. Happens daily around the world.

 

[ejb]

Funny how another carrier also had a drama today but that is not reported.

ejb

 

[JohnK]

Seems a very small number of pax also.

Perhaps the article has been updated since your post.

QF17, which took off from Sydney Airport at 11.11am today with 199 passengers on board, turned back about an hour into the flight to Buenos Aires, a Qantas spokeswoman said

Still seems like a small number of passengers. Do these sort of loads justify a 747 on this route?

 

[NM]

Still seems like a small number of passengers. Do these sort of loads justify a 747 on this route?

Well an A330 or 767 cannot make the distance, so a 747 is required (or take a tech stop for fuel, though not too many suitable places for that).

 

[ejb]

Perhaps the article has been updated since your post.


Still seems like a small number of passengers. Do these sort of loads justify a 747 on this route?

They do appear to have updated it.

It still seems a very small number.

One for the experts, can a A333 make that flight or is it only doable with 747?

ejb

edit:Seems the question was answered before asked, thanks NM.

 

[NM]

They do appear to have updated it.

It still seems a very small number.

One for the experts, can a A333 make that flight or is it only doable with 747?

ejb

edit:Seems the question was answered before asked, thanks NM.

Its well beyond the range of an A330-300, and also A330-200. And as the routing heads very much south and close to Antarctica, not going to happen on a twin-engine aircraft due to ETOPS limitations.

 

[simongr]

I thought this route was being canned?

Strange to do it mid flight

 

[JohnK]

Well an A330 or 767 cannot make the distance, so a 747 is required (or take a tech stop for fuel, though not too many suitable places for that).

OK.

It still appears to be a waste to use a 747 on this route with low loads where a lot of routes to Asia are full and could do with extra capacity.

 

[oz_mark]

Funny how another carrier also had a drama today but that is not reported.

I assume you're referring to the SQ flight?

 

[mannej]

The was also the BA jumbo that had an engine (RR) surge that got zero coverage

 

[Ewing]

Statement released:
About Qantas - Media Room - Media Releases

 

[harvyk]

OK.

It still appears to be a waste to use a 747 on this route with low loads where a lot of routes to Asia are full and could do with extra capacity.

ETOPS rules stop them using something smaller on the route... The 2 engine rules kick in which means that they have no choice but to operate a B747 (or A380) on the route. Thus if they want to fly the route (without going a long way north), they need a 4 engined plane, it's that simple.

Not a lot of places to land a 2 engine jet if something goes wrong between here and South America. The theory is a 4 engine jet will still have 3 working engines if something goes wrong, unlike a twin which would only have 1 if something went wrong.

There is a reason why LAN operate their A340's on it's South America to NZ \ AU flights.

 

[Slats7]

Funny how another carrier also had a drama today but that is not reported.

ejb

BA 747?

QF isn't having a good run with the media lately!

 

[mannej]

BA 747?

QF isn't having a good run with the media lately!

Not just limited to news.com.au

Qantas flight QF17 from Sydney to Buenos Aires turns back
Great to see expert comments from this lawyer here...

Another Qantas flight turned back with engine drama | Perth Now
Is this even newsworthy? 100 minute delay? It happens all the time.

This really distorts the traveling publics view on QF. Apparently QF is the only airline to have problems according to the Australian media. Someone should tell that to Avherald. They must have faulty sources. Why? Apparently they have reported incidents from ALL airlines ALL over the world.

Surely that can't be right...:shock:

 

[oz_mark]

This really distorts the traveling publics view on QF. Apparently QF is the only airline to have problems according to the Australian media. Someone should tell that to Avherald. They must have faulty sources. Why? Apparently they have reported incidents from ALL airlines ALL over the world.

Surely that can't be right...:shock:

Since QF has all the issues, maybe Australian maintenance IS the problem :mrgreen:

 

[drron]

Since QF has all the issues, maybe Australian maintenance IS the problem :mrgreen:

Ha Ha.Thought crossed my mind as well.:shock:

 

[JohnK]

Since QF has all the issues, maybe Australian maintenance IS the problem :mrgreen:

LOL! Cheeky!

 

[browski]

I am now waiting for my flight to BKK... Just want to get going!!

Be careful what you wish for.