Am I Really So Out of Touch?

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i won't be doing the coach trip without lounge access. I'm not going to lie about that.

The reason for me wanting to work in a kitchen of a great restaurant is because food and wine are 2 of my passions. I'd love to have my own upmarket guesthouse and I'd love to be good enough to cook for my guests.

I have not done any volunteer work as such and to be fair it is not something I particularly wish to do. I do however contribute well in excess of $1Million to charity each year and I believe that I have a responsibility to give as I am able.

I'm about to set up a charitable fund in Australia to ensure that long after I'm gone, people less fortunate get some opportunities I never had.

Even here on AFF. I am always happy to contribute to a worthy cause and I hope this doesn't change.

I'm just going to take this opportunity to say how impressed i am that you do that considering a lot of other people in your situation dont, I think in a way this proves that you actually havnt lost touch !
 
Spoiler Alert. If you read this you are probably going to be bored and you will possibly understand why I am the way I am.

I'm very aware I'm never going to win any popularity contests nor am I likely to enter any! I tend to speak my mind.

I probably have 2 or 3 very good friends and a number of acquaintances. I also have a very sarcastic sense of humour and unless you really know me, I can come across pretty arrogant. I think this is due to me pretty much having everything done for me exactly how I like it. I am also used to receiving the very best of service wherever I go.

As a lot of you know, I moved to Europe. What you may not know is the reason. I was in a pretty happy relationship and quite a few AFF'ers met my ex on a few occasions. Then I met someone else. Never meant for it to happen. It just did. It made me re-evaluate my relationship and I decided to end it. This is when I deleted everyone except family on Facebook BTW. My decision to end the relationship came as a big shock to my ex, as we hadn't been having any issues at all. I felt so guilty about my decision, that against my lawyers advice, he walked away with around $5million because I just wanted it over.

I have NEVER had a partner that has enjoyed travelling as much as I and I really think one day I'd like to. My son tells me it is as I date guys that are too young. My current (& soon to be ex) is a Dr, and at 31 he is the oldest person I have ever dated.

This brings me to the title of my post. We were having dinner 2 days ago and he says he can't be bothered going to Australia for the GP. He doesn't want to go to DXB he wants to focus on his career. I was like. You make £70k what possible difference will that make to our lives. (Not an ideal thing to say as it turns out) he said I was really out of touch with normal people.

So I am back in England. I am with my favourite cousin and I decided I'm changing my lifestyle. I am going to get a job. Actually. I have one starting in May for 3 months in a restaurant. I told her I am going to live on £20k and buy a "normal" car and change my lifestyle. My cousin was actually pretty impressed until she realised the £20k was per month and didn't include travel expenses.(My bad)

But as part of this, me being out of touch. I am actually going to fly in coach from London to Auckland. I want to see what it's like. I want to feel like a usual person. I want to see if I really am as out of touch as even my son tells me I am. (This coming from a kid who learned to drive in a Gallardo)

I think it may well be true that I am out of touch. But I will soon know.

As usual. I don't do trip reports, however I will tweet a picture or 2.

It's an interesting question, I think I understand it a little more after living in Hong Kong for awhile - the gap between the poor and the middle class is very wide (the minimum wage is $3AUD and 40% of the population is in subsidised housing).

I think your plan is a good one - if nothing else you will have insight into a part of the population that lives very differently to you, being able to understand that may give you a sense of being in touch with the challenges most of us face.

I wouldn't let people make you feel guilty about your lifestyle or fortunate position - money is a powerful motivator in life and creates jealousy so easily. Just be the best the person you can be.
 
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Shaun,

Until this post I did not appreciate that it was only this week your father passed away.

Sue and I are truly sorry for you and your loss. Our thoughts are with you over the next difficult period.

+1. Making the flights to PER - definitely DON'T do them in Y. Please consider that your ability to do everything that needs to be done when you are there.
 
+1

On a more serious note, Shaun you have my condolences for your recent loss.
 
Bossreggie; my husband lost his Dad when he was 17, and his mother when he was 27. I lost my Dad a few years ago. Flying economy across the world has nothing to do with anything. And it certainly wont make you feel any better about yourself nor will it keep you in touch with others. I think there is a bigger picture than that. You just need to find it. But it isn't anywhere near economy. I know this, that's usually all I can afford to fly and there ain't nothing saintly about it!
 
Also… my Dad just died suddenly, so I'm looking at a whole bunch of things.

I am very sorry to hear of your loss even though we have not met.
A dear friend of mine lost his Dad this Monday after a long illness. Stephen arrived half an hour too late to his bedside, Townsville to Tassie.
The expectations and the humanity of the final situation unfortunately do little to lessen the impact of a loved one's passing.
I wear my Dad's watch and think of him every day after 28 years.
My thoughts are with you.
Best Wishes.
 
Sorry for your loss of your Dad. Losing a parent is very painful, I lost my Dad to cancer and watched him lose his battle day to day... ! it's a pain that I never knew existed.
I have always enjoyed your posts as your life is something I will never have, if you want to get 'in touch' maybe I should show you my 'budget trip' to Europe and the apartment for 80 euro in Paris lol... Hope you find what you are looking for :)
 
Doesn't an apprentice chef earn like $9/hr? Maybe after 3 months full time, that'd be enough cash to fly tiger MEL-AKL, but probably have to IOU Simon Gault for the meal, and take the subsequent year to pay it back to him ;)
 
Echo the sentiments above, it's near ever losing someone close.

.. My wish is that if my loved ones thought I was going off the rails - they would tell me and I would be able to reflect on it

Absolutely agree 100% on that and some of us are very lucky to have this in our lives.


I have to grin slightly at that... I met my wife on a night out that was a Pulp Tribute (went along with my flat mate.. had no idea who they were!).
 
Actually I feel a bit uncomfortable even replying to this thread because it seems far too personal a topic to subject the apparent issues/contradictions/conflicts (and don't you seem to have plenty!) in your life to scrutiny by a predominantly anonymous group of strangers in this forum, bossreggie, ...........but it does seem you cannot resist. If introspection is not your thing and you can't rationalise your issues on your own my guess is that you need far more knowledgeable help to make sense of your life than you are likely to find here - or even from your closest family or friends, no matter how good their intentions.

I can't see that depriving yourself will achieve anything but since you seem to have too much spare time maybe a circuit breaker would be doing a few things that other people do routinely that don't cost lots of money (that's the important bit) would be "therapeutic". Do your own shopping, personally cook a roast for a couple of friends (even if it's not gourmet fare they probably won't care and you can always wash it down with a good bottle of grog)..............go for a walk somewhere new - etc etc.
 
Perhaps this could be turned into a reality show? Bossreggie gets a job?

Actually, it sort of reminds me of a reality show I saw one time called the Secret CEO or some crazy thing. It was a USA program. There may be an Australian one but I don't really watch much FTA TV anyway.

The premise was they grabbed the CEO (or in this case the Mayor) and disguised him and dumped him into the pleb end of the pool. In his case the motor pool. They had cameras as they were saying that they were filming a reality show on trainees.

I actually found it quite interesting as the leading hand mechanic was showing him how to service a Police motorcycle (the mayor gets to change the oil, hehe), but strangely enough the mechanic had a great passion for his job, stating to the (unknown to him) Mayor that servicing the bike was the same as having someone's life in your hands. And to do the job properly.

Which is so true. Everyone in any organisation is working for the same goal. Two Paramedics can't walk through your front door when you're having a heart attack, if they don't have a mechanic somewhere keeping the units on the road. Which is why senior staff need to keep in mind that everyone is a cog in the wheel. Everyone has their own skills. It's not what you do in the organisation, it's how you carry out your duty.
 
The premise was they grabbed the CEO (or in this case the Mayor) and disguised him and dumped him into the pleb end of the pool. In his case the motor pool. They had cameras as they were saying that they were filming a reality show on trainees.

There are Australian and US series called "Undercover Boss" that do this.
 
I am so sorry about your father dying so unexpectedly. You must be feeling dreadful. And to be on the verge of breaking up your relationship, you are going through some big changes, big stress triggers. And I think you are feeling a need to wear a hair shirt for a while, hence the plans to live on what is, to you, a small amount, travel Y and so on.

But I don't think that doing these things is necessarily going to achieve anything. I think you think you need to prove something to the close friends who have told you that you are out of touch but despite them being close, they are probably expressing an unconscious envy that you can have any lifestyle you choose.

Sadly of course you can't choose who you live that lifestyle with, necessarily, and so your are breaking up with the young, career-focused doctor. And good luck to him - he has, almost nobly in his own eyes I imagine, chosen to work on helping others directly rather than ride the coat tails of your wealth. But that doesn't make it easier for you to be alone.

But you seem to be a "good" person, despite being wealthy and supposedly out of touch. I don't think you need actually volunteer or live the life of people who have less than you, to be able to contribute to others. I work for a charity, I am the CFO and earn a good salary and my husband is CEO of that same charity and earns a reasonable salary, but we are hardly wealthy, just comfortable. But we are considered, I suspect, a bit spoiled and possibly arrogant by some people. We are childless so we have more disposable income, only have one car but it is an Audi, have a large renovated modern home, travel to NYC once a year in J (last year upgraded to F) and this year we are going to NYC for one month plus a short trip to HKG.

I am painting the picture of what the outside world sees of us and why they may consider us spoiled - a microcosm of what you have and what others perceive about you, but to continue the story what people don't know about us is that we give, each fortnight, a substantial amount back to the charity we work for, and that we have set up a trust so that when we are gone all of our estate will be put into the trust with the income going to support this charity, in perpetuity. We don't feel the need to explain this to anyone, let them think what they will. Also, I don't feel the need to get my hands dirty, supporting with money and by working at a lower than I could earn elsewhere salary is enough - and in my case it would be literally getting my hands dirty because i work for an animal welfare charity :)

And you say you give a lot to charity, and that you are setting up a foundation, so similarly you are giving back to the causes that are important to you. And you don't have to actually volunteer, charities need money to run these days with all the requirements to be properly managed and governed.

So don't let others judge you and don't feel judged. Be sure in your heart that you are a good person, living life in a way that makes you happy, causes no harm to others and even supports those less fortunate than most of us on AFF. Align your heart and your head, accept what you are and get on with living life. You say that you don't expect longevity so relax and enjoy what you have.

Best of luck with whatever path you pursue! Happiness is true wealth :)
 
So sorry to hear of your loss bossreggie.

I found when my dad died (a few years after my mother) that I grieved differently, for not only was it the loss of loved parent but also the loss of a generation. When I reflected on my dad's life (hard-working, honest, unassuming, devoted to family and always putting others before himself) I realised that we are not defined by what we have but rather by what we do with what we have (including time, compassion, love etc).

Best wishes for the future.
 
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