Air Traffic Control Issues

[nancypants]

Maybe ATC issues are the new turbulence (which was the new Boeing)

Ie, I suspect there is more attention because they are already in the public eye as a concept

 

[Melburnian1]

I suspect there is more attention because they are already in the public eye as a concept

Yes, media will pay more attention to what the ATSB places on its website.

 

[nancypants]

Yes, media will pay more attention to what the ATSB places on its website.

Disappointing lack of attention to general aviation in the Northern Territory however!!

 

[kamchatsky]

ATC issues now impacting WSI as 24 hour airport. At least it is not fully opened yet:

Air traffic control woes stymie new Sydney airport’s 24-hour status

A shortage of air traffic controllers at Sydney’s incumbent airport is having a ripple effect for fledging operations at the new rival in the city’s west.

www.smh.com.au

https://archive.md/euSvP

 

[Saab34]

I assume they’ don’t have anyone wishing to transfer to Sydney, even for more cash.

It’s the same in my corporate, next to nobody ever transfers QLD/VIC into Sydney, even after cash incentives thrown around. House pricing is a huge driver of that unless one wishes to live out in the sticks.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 6 September, Channel 7's 1800 hours Melbourne news reported that there were two (45 minute?) periods when for 'the first time in years' flight crew would have to report their positions over the 'tannoy' to other aircraft, the requirement being blamed on a shortage of SYD air traffic controllers.

I was some distance away from the TV but from memory one period today may have been around 1700 hours and the other from c.1900 hours. It was claimed this would (only?) affect flights between SYD, CBR and MEL. The report claimed some flights would have to use extra fuel and some may even be diverted.

As at 1836 AEST there don't seem to be substantial delays to flights on these sectors, but 1836 is from memory outside the two time bands referred to.

 

[JessicaTam]

On Sunday 6 September, Channel 7's 1800 hours Melbourne news reported that there were two (45 minute?) periods when for 'the first time in years' flight crew would have to report their positions over the 'tannoy' to other aircraft, the requirement being blamed on a shortage of SYD air traffic controllers.

I was some distance away from the TV but from memory one period today may have been around 1700 hours and the other from c.1900 hours. It was claimed this would (only?) affect flights between SYD, CBR and MEL. The report claimed some flights would have to use extra fuel and some may even be diverted.

As at 1836 AEST there don't seem to be substantial delays to flights on these sectors, but 1836 is from memory outside the two time bands referred to.

What a ridiculous thing for Channel 7 to say. A tannoy is a British term for a loud speaker. Why not just say they have to radio their position?

 

[Melburnian1]

What a ridiculous thing for Channel 7 to say. A tannoy is a British term for a loud speaker. Why not just say they have to radio their position?

You obviously haven't subsequently watched the TV news report if it's become available online through 7plus or other means.

The 'tannoy' was my joking description: hence why I placed it in quotation marks.

Do you not understand how slang can be used?

As suggested in the original post, the report stated flight crew were having to radio their positions.

 

[markis10]

As suggested in the original post, the report stated flight crew were having to radio their positions.

Which they do all the time! Hardly news. Airspace goes into uncontrolled mode where requirements change for reporting, called a TIBA, eg
TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA ACT
ATS SUBJ TO CONTINGENCY DUE OPR RESTRICTIONS
TIBA PROCEDURES APPLY IN THE FLW CTA CLASS A, C, AND E AIRSPACE:
DESIGNATED AIRSPACE HANDBOOK (DAH) 'DOWNS A, D', 'BUNYA', 'STRADDY A,
B', 'NOOSA A, B, C', 'BURNETT A, B, C, D', AND 'NAMBOUR'
SERVICE VARIATION MAP (LISTED UNDER NOOSA, DOWNS, STRADDY AND BURNETT
IN THE BRISBANE FIR) AVBL AT

NOTAM maps - Airservices

PORTIONS OF AIRSPACE OUTSIDE AUSTRALIAN TERRITORY DO NOT FORM PART OF
THE RESTRICTED AREA
THE CARRIAGE AND USE OF TWO RADIOS IS RQ FOR ENTRY TO THE TEMPO
RESTRICTED AREA
PILOTS OR AIRLINE OPS REQUESTING OPS IN THE TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA
MUST CTC BRISBANE CENTRE VIA +61 7 3866 3798 OR VIA VHF OR HF TO THE
FIRST AUSTRALIA SECTOR AVAILABLE FOR ACCESS APPROVAL
AUTH IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ENTRY INTO AFFECTED AIRSPACE OUTSIDE
AUSTRALIAN TERRITORY
EMERG AND MEDEVAC PRIORITY ACFT MAY REQ AUTH FM ADJ SECTOR
AUTH TO ENTER TEMPO RESTRICTED AREA DOES NOT CONSTITUTE CLR TO ENTER
ANY ADJ OR EMBEDDED RESTRICTED AREAS
ACFT SHOULD EXPECT TO BE AUTH TO ENTER AT MANAGED INTERVALS EXCEPT
FOR PRIORITY ACFT
ATC SER NOT AVBL IN CLASS A, C, AND E AIRSPACE
FIS EXC TRAFFIC INFORMATION AVBL ON REQ FM HF (BRISBANE RADIO) AND
MAY BE AVBL FM ADJ ATS SECTORS
PRIOR TO ENTERING THE AFFECTED AIRSPACE ACFT WILL BE PROVIDED HF FREQ
FOR FIS AND SAR ALERTING AND VHF FOR ONWARDS CLR
PILOTS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRAIN AND COLLISION AVOIDANCE WI
AFFECTED AIRSPACE
TWR, TERMINAL CONTROL UNITS AND MIL AREAS WI ABV AIRSPACE CONTINUE TO
OPR PER EN ROUTE SUP AUSTRALIA (ERSA) UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE
ADS-C/CPDLC LOGON: YBBB SER NOT AVBL WI THIS AIRSPACE. ACFT MAY
REMAIN LOGGED ON BUT PSN REPORTS MUST BE BCST ON THE APPROPRIATE FREQ
TIBA FREQ: AT OR ABOVE FL200 128.95. BELOW FL200 126.35, EXCEPT IN
DOMESTIC CLASS G AIRSPACE WHERE THE FLIGHT INFO AREA (FIA) FREQUENCY
SHALL BE USED
BRISBANE CENTRE FREQ MNT IN CASE OF EMERG
CLASS G AIRSPACE UNDER THE ABV AIRSPACE DOES NOT FORM PART OF THE
RESTRICTED AREA
TIBA PROCEDURES APPLY ON PUBLISHED FIA FREQUENCIES
FIS NOT AVBL IN THE CLASS G AIRSPACE
IFR ACFT MAY CTC BRISBANE CENTRE VIA +61 3 9235 7550 (BEFORE 1200) OR
+61 7 3866 3798 FOR FURTHER INFO IF RQ
TCAS AND TRANSPONDER EQPT MUST BE SELECTED ON AT ALL TIMES