Air India B787 crash Ahmedabad

[mjt57]

Mentour Pilot and another pilot (both B737 guys) had a chat about this last night on the Tubes. They set up a Flight Sim and focused on how the fuel control switches operate and what it takes to operate them.

Years ago when I got a B737 sim session for Father's Day I recall them being stiff to operate and required a bit of effort to operate each one in turn. So, if they were operated, maybe, as JB suggested, it was an attempt to restart the engines, or at least, one of them.

 

[RSD]

Mentour Pilot and another pilot (both B737 guys) had a chat about this last night on the Tubes. They set up a Flight Sim and focused on how the fuel control switches operate and what it takes to operate them.

Years ago when I got a B737 sim session for Father's Day I recall them being stiff to operate and required a bit of effort to operate each one in turn. So, if they were operated, maybe, as JB suggested, it was an attempt to restart the engines, or at least, one of them.

I'm in "the fuel control switches were operated to try to relight the engines" camp

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The interesting thing now will be to see if they publish/make public this initial +30 days report.

 

[oz_mark]

I'm in "the fuel control switches were operated to try to relight the engines" camp

It's a hypothetical scenario that seems to fit in with everything we know about the crash. I'm not sure in a dual failure you'd have many options, especially if there is no handy river nearby.

 

[RSD]

It's a hypothetical scenario that seems to fit in with everything we know about the crash. I'm not sure in a dual failure you'd have many options, especially if there is no handy river nearby.

Dual failure at 400 feet just after take off - I doubt you would need the fingers on the other hand to count the options. They were obviously trying to work through it as they didn't just resort to trying the impossible turn or anything else that had absolutely no chance of working.

 

[jenib]

This fellow is ''dramatic'' but he has published a retraction on his previous video (which I didn't bother to watch) about the fuel control switches. He has found an apparent page of the duel engine failure procedure for the 787 Dreamliner, which instruct pilots to cutoff then run the switches in that circumstance. It takes until about the 7 minute mark of the video to get to the point.

 

[Rabs97]

This fellow is ''dramatic'' but he has published a retraction on his previous video (which I didn't bother to watch) about the fuel control switches. He has found an apparent page of the duel engine failure procedure for the 787 Dreamliner, which instruct pilots to cutoff then run the switches in that circumstance. It takes until about the 7 minute mark of the video to get to the point.

I really don’t have time for someone who couldn’t be bothered to find the correct QRH page in a rush to be the first to upload content.

I will post this video however, as it feature someone most would probably recognise, former NTSB senior investigator Greg Feith of Air Crash Investigation fame.

They discuss the accident investigation on Greg’s podcast with two other investigators, and let’s just say they don’t have much faith in the Indian Air Accident Board given some of the things that have happened post crash:

 

[jenib]

I really don’t have time for someone who couldn’t be bothered to find the correct QRH page in a rush to be the first to upload content.

I will post this video however, as it feature someone most would probably recognise, former NTSB senior investigator Greg Feith of Air Crash Investigation fame.

They discuss the accident investigation on Greg’s podcast with two other investigators, and let’s just say they don’t have much faith in the Indian Air Accident Board given some of the things that have happened post crash:

So is the page in his retraction video incorrect? Thanks

 

[Quickstatus]

The fact that they have the data showing the cycling of the fuel control switches is a good sign as that shows that the FDR was still recording after the engines shut down

Have you seen the report?