Air Canada RJ impact with ground vehicle, at least 2 fatalities

[Quickstatus]

My thinking is that the collision occurred about where Delta & Echo intersect (where I've put the cross).

No. The airport map in post #6 upthread suggests the location you indicated is E/F

 

[justinbrett]

My thinking is that the collision occurred about where Delta & Echo intersect (where I've put the cross).
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I got the feeling that the second ARFF truck (32) was coming from a different direction, and my suspicion is that following the incident ARFF truck was the air stairs that were originally sent out to the United when it was stopped on the Alpha taxiway with its odor problem - but that is just my reading between the lines of it.

I wouldn’t be game to speculate based on that.

If the two trucks were in different locations/travelling in different directions they should not be using “in company”. If true that’s a red flag right there.

 

[Saab34]

No doubt as day starts to break over that way some videos/cctv will surface.

 

[RSD]

No. The airport map in post #6 upthread suggests the location you indicated is E/F
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Good pickup - I meant Echo & Foxtrot... - will edit my post

 

[RSD]

If the two trucks were in different locations/travelling in different directions they should not be using “in company”. If true that’s a red flag right there.

The recording said "Truck 1 and company" - company could be the air stairs, an ambulance, a fire chief's SUV.

 

[jb747]

The aircraft was not on the taxiway, but was still doing around 80 knots on the centreline of the runway. When all motion ceased, it ended up on the taxiway. A rule of aviation is that you never enter/cross a runway, even if cleared, without actually making sure that it is really clear.

 

[markis10]

The recording said "Truck 1 and company" - company could be the air stairs, an ambulance, a fire chief's SUV.

Air stairs would be very unlikely, they usually are not equipped to drive on taxiways

 

[sudoer]

The aircraft was not on the taxiway, but was still doing around 80 knots on the centreline of the runway.

Several outlets reported it was doing 24mph, can I ask where the 80 knots figure is from?

 

[fletty]

Several outlets reported it was doing 24mph, can I ask where the 80 knots figure is from?

There is a video of the incident occurring, and the CRJ is still travelling at speed. Looks much more like 80 knots then 24mph.

Spoiler

https://www.reddit.com/r/interesting/comments/1s1pms2/moment_air_canada_flight_collided_with_a_fire

 

[markis10]

Several outlets reported it was doing 24mph, can I ask where the 80 knots figure is from?

There was a velocity plot of the adsb data upthread

 

[RooFlyer]

Here's a more extended video than posted above. Unfortunately probably paywalled by The Oz. One observation. 'The Company' to the first truck are a long way back from it (?30 to 50m?) - surely would be considered a different movement? And they appear to have stopped moments before the collision - saw the jet coming on? Or maybe slowed before the video started, resulting in the first racing ahead.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/world/firefighters-critically-injured-as-air-canada-jet-collides-with-firetruck-at-laguardia/news-story/27fc09ad98dfa38ccf16b91b30b99a95