Aerolineas Argentinas Business Class

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sydneyboy

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Does anyone have recent experience flying on this airline? I have had one experience Sydney to Brazil return business class in December 2006 and found them quite good. I was advised by a friend that they had deteriorated markedly in recent times. I "googled" them recently and read absolute horror stories of cancelled flights, missed connections, poor food (or no food at all), no entertainment, dirty planes, over booking, poor service and in one flight they ran out of water! The problems (as I read in a couple of reports) have been officially recogonised by the Argentine government and they are to be nationalised and merged with Austral airlines. The advantage they have is that their business class fare Sydney to Brazil is almost half the LAN fare via Santiago or the new Qantas service via Buenos Aires.

I have flown LAN on the same route 3 times, twice in economy and once business class. The on board service was good however they are not without their problems. On the first trip my outgoing flight was cancelled although in fairness I was given a couple of weeks notice. On the return leg of my second trip we were advised in Santiago that the flight due out at about 23:00 would be delayed and after regular 30 minute updates it acknowledged at about 02:00 we would not be leaving until 10:00 and we would be accomodated in Santiago that night. This involved temporary visas and endless delay. To cap it off the bus on the way to the hotel broke down about a km from the hotel and we had to walk the rest of the way. The flight was terminated in Auckland and we herded on to Qantas flights spread over the day where spare seats could be found. On my third trip I arrived at Rio airport only to be told my flight had been resheduled and had already departed. In fairness I had failed to reconfirm (a mistake I will never make again!) and they paid for a room at the airport hotel and left the next day.

In summary when travelling from Australia to South America you need tolerance and a sense of humour. To return to my original question any recent experiences of Aerolineas Argentinas would be appreciated.
 
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You can pick up cheap Y and J seats SYD-AKL-SYD and get good SC's.

But...after I tried them a couple of years back I haven't touched them since (same goes got LAN).

Will be interesting to hear everyones thoughts?
 
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When are you planning to travel? I'll have 4 SthAm Lan flights plus SCL-AKL to report back on at the end of Seeptmeber.

I was advised by my travel agent to avoid Aerolinas at all costs - they have a tendency to declare bankruptcy, and if your connecting flight gets cancelled the other airlines wont want to help you b/c they've all been burnt before (ie. Aerolinas wont pay for eg QF/LAN to carry you back on alternative flights when they cant meet connections etc).

They are cheap - if you're doing intra-SthAm flights, have a look at the Sth American airpass available through LAN.
 
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My sister and her husband flew AR from SYD to EZE last year. They were delayed at AKL for 4 hours without explanation, the aircraft was obviously badly maintained, and the cabin crew behaved in a haughty, negligent manner that made the worst antics of Alitalia FAs seem mild by comparison. All in all, they don't recommend them. In fact, they rerouted; at considerable expense and inconvenience; to fly back to SYD aboard UA, via IAD and LAX.
 
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In reply to Docjames, my next trip to Brazil will be April/May next year. As I said in my original post the on board service on the 3 return trips on LAN has been very good. The one return trip on Aerolineas Argentinas was likewise good and on a par with LAN, no staff attitude problems, but that was over 18 months ago. Its problems appear to be more recent. The issue of bankrupcy is real and this was recognised by the Argentine government when according to reports (dated 8 August 2008) have nationalised the airline with the stated intention of returning it to its former glory.
 
I started a thread a couple of months ago but like feedback on anyone who has flown business class on this airline in recent times.
 
Perhaps you could try FlyerTalk - there's a lot more South American experience there.
 
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I think i replied to this when you first posted. All the avdice i get is Dont fly them! This includes travellers i know based in Buenos Aires.
 
Have flown them 5 or 6 times in the last 3 years. These are my experiences:

The fares are comparatively cheap (often around half of Lan Chile) - sometimes around $6000 or so. If you need to go to BsAs and back, it is fairly direct, (one less stop than with Lan Chile, but this will change when QF enters the market).

The seat is so-so. It is an old style cradle seat, but it is very big with lots of room, and you can sleep on it. IFE is a couple of old movies on a loop, on a really old tape, so it is pretty much unwatchable.

In flight service is usually okay.

The food is not great, but not terrible. Wine was okay, from memory.

Their biggest letdown is their reliability. The flight from EZE leaves around midnight, from memory, but in my experience it has always departed well after 2am. You get kinda tired by then! The lounge in EZE is pretty horrible. Again, wine is okay, but often they run out of glasses, and you are lucky to find a plastic cup even. Don't bother trying to find any food there. The plastic covered sandwiches are usually gone pretty fast. Would be nice if they cleaned the lounge occasionally. Checkin is not a fun experience at EZE.

Last time I flew them, about 2 hrs into the flight (when we were finally asleep) they suddenly announced we were landing, and to put our seats up. Looking out the window, we were in the middle of nowhere (somewhere very south in Argentina, from the map), the landing strip looked a bit dodgy (barely any lights), and covered in snow. We were never given any explanation. But shortly after landing, a couple of people boarded - they looked like Aerolineas pilots, and they took up a couple of seats in business class, and continued with us on our journey. Still no explanations were given.

Needless to say, we finally got into Sydney (via AKL) 3 to 4 hours late.

They do have a points programme. I have never worked out how to redeem points from it. I think you have to call their office, wait a day, they get back to you with an answer. Definitely could be a long process.

However, a nice surprise was when I reached "Platino" level, they sent me the usual card, as well as a couple of upgrade vouchers (that I have never used, as they seemed quite complex to use - book and pay for economy, call up with your voucher, wait a day or so, and see if they can upgrade - I haven't used as I would never want to be stuck with their economy - it looks really bad). But they also sent me a half-price voucher for my next ticket, which I did use on ticket for my partner. So we ended up with 2 bus class returns for under $10,000. Pretty good value, when Lan is well over $10000 per passenger.

All up, it is not a first-tier business class product, but the price usually reflects that. If I had the time, I would prefer to do a Oneworld RTW out of somewhere cheap like South Africa, and earn a decent amount of aadvantage out of it, for not a whole lot more. But if you need a quickish point to point (and one of those points is EZE) then I would go for it.
 
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