AA's Admirals Club 30-day Membership: QF lounge access?

[Freq Flier 2013]

Hi Galah, thanks for the info. Does JFK have an Admiral club lounge?

 

[Princess Fiona]

Hi Galah, thanks for the info. Does JFK have an Admiral club lounge?

Yes several

AAdmirals Club JFK

 

[Freq Flier 2013]

When I look online it says that you need to buy food. Is that correct? Are they worth it?

 

[Princess Fiona]

When I look online it says that you need to buy food. Is that correct? Are they worth it?

The food for sale is nicer than the free snacks (soup, crackers, cheese, crudités and some fruit) but you can make do without it

 

[MEL_Traveller]

When I look online it says that you need to buy food. Is that correct? Are they worth it?

The membership also includes free basic wines and spirits (surcharge only for 'top shelf'). The basic food is fine to cobble something together for a snack (or having a drink).

 

[serfty]

Also some beers are available.

 

[galah]

Does JFK have an Admiral club lounge?

As Princess Fiona and others have mentioned, yes, there are 2 AC lounges in Terminal 8. However, I have had issues in the past getting through security in T8 when holding a boarding pass for QF12 (out of T7). YMMV

 

[serfty]

... However, I have had issues in the past getting through security in T8 when holding a boarding pass for QF12 (out of T7). YMMV

Was this before May last year?

At that time rules were relaxed and now generally all one needs to access any terminal an a US airport is a same day BP for a flight departing that airport.

I have used this at LAX and ORD. I have seen reports on FT of this being done at JFK.

Sometimes the staff on security have helpfully pointed out the incorrect terminal, I have just told them I want to use the lounge - I have then been waved through.

 

[galah]

Was this before May last year?

Ahh - yes, it was 2013 IIRC. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[cjd600]

Hi FF2013,

According to the Admiral's club membership rules, you are allowed to take 2 guests/family members with you. I had no problems doing this a couple of years ago, just make sure you print out your membership receipt in case you need to show proof.

You will have the following lounge access:
MEL T1 QP
LAX Admiral's Club, Regional Terminal (LAX-DEN is on American Eagle out of the remote [-]barn[/-] terminal with a small Admiral's club, it's 'cosy' )
DEN Admiral's Club (pretty standard AA lounge)
LAX TBIT QP

Note if you are on QF12 JFK-LAX, the 30-day AC membership will not get you access to the BA galleries lounge in JFK's terminal 7.

Do you mean the One World lounge (operated by QF) in TBIT?
I didn't think the Admirlas Club 30 Day pass got access to this any longer...

 

[galah]

Do you mean the One World lounge (operated by QF) in TBIT?
I didn't think the Admirlas Club 30 Day pass got access to this any longer...

You're right - you will only have access to the AC in terminal 4 at LAX. I've updated my original post. Apologies FF2013!

 

[verduzzo]

Hi all,

Just thought I'd throw these comm's in the ring regarding the 30 Day Pass. PAX will be flying QF:

AA response:
In order to access Qantas lounges, you must have an Annual or 30-Day Admirals Club membership and present a boarding pass for same day travel on a American Airlines or Qantas Airlines-marketed, and Qantas-operated flight.

QF response:

You're unable to access The Qantas Club lounge as Admirals Club 30-day member as lounge access eligibility is based on the class of travel, Qantas club membership or the Frequent Flyer Membership tier for your next onward flight.
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clear as mud?

 

[Mattg]

Hi all,

Just thought I'd throw these comm's in the ring regarding the 30 Day Pass. PAX will be flying QF:

AA response:
In order to access Qantas lounges, you must have an Annual or 30-Day Admirals Club membership and present a boarding pass for same day travel on a American Airlines or Qantas Airlines-marketed, and Qantas-operated flight.

QF response:

You're unable to access The Qantas Club lounge as Admirals Club 30-day member as lounge access eligibility is based on the class of travel, Qantas club membership or the Frequent Flyer Membership tier for your next onward flight.
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clear as mud?

American Airlines is correct here.

 

[galah]

In my experience, you will get access to QF lounges when there is no AA lounge available at your port. Again, this was a couple of years ago so who knows how many enhancements have been made since then..

 

[Kangol]

Hi FF2013,

According to the Admiral's club membership rules, you are allowed to take 2 guests/family members with you. I had no problems doing this a couple of years ago, just make sure you print out your membership receipt in case you need to show proof.

You will have the following lounge access:
MEL T1 QP
LAX Admiral's Club, Regional Terminal (LAX-DEN is on American Eagle out of the remote [-]barn[/-] terminal with a small Admiral's club, it's 'cosy' )
DEN Admiral's Club (pretty standard AA lounge)
LAX [-]TBIT QP[/-] AC in T4

Note if you are on QF12 JFK-LAX, the 30-day AC membership will not get you access to the BA galleries lounge in JFK's terminal 7.

MEL T1 is domestic. You mean T2 international, QF J lounge (in case the OP starts looking for signs that don't exist there).

 

[MEL_Traveller]

QF response:

You're unable to access The Qantas Club lounge as Admirals Club 30-day member as lounge access eligibility is based on the class of travel, Qantas club membership or the Frequent Flyer Membership tier for your next onward flight.
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clear as mud?

Qantas' reply relates to general OW and Qantas lounge access rules - which is either through class of service, QC membership or FF status (gold and above).

It fails to take into account the reciprocal agreement between QC and AAdmirals Club memberships which exists separately.

 

[Freq Flier 2013]

Thanks it looks like it's a worth while thing for a fee of $99 usd we get lounge access for 3 people.

 

[Freq Flier 2013]

Travel is all in economy MEL to LAX to DEN to LGA and then return JFK to LAX to MEL

Flights are QF and AA (LAX to DEN)

A bit of topic but.. Should I credit the above flight to Qantas or AA? The class is O which is discount. Ie the cheapest available = min points with QF.

I'm red with QF and currently do not have an AA account but I'm sure I can create one.

I typically travel on Virgin domestic via work and if traveling overseas use points for J or F award tickets so never got status with airlines. This time it's a revenue fare as I'm traveling with relatives.

I can credit my uncles and his kids ticket also to QF for family pooling of points (both have QF cards) but that's all I can think of. Ideas welcome.

 

[galah]

A bit of topic but.. Should I credit the above flight to Qantas or AA? The class is O which is discount. Ie the cheapest available = min points with QF.

You're going to get best value crediting QF codes to QF and AA codes to AA, regardless of metal flown. Crediting QF O-class to AA will earn you 25% of miles flown, which is terrible.

Presuming the majority of your flights (esp. trans-pac legs) are on QF codes, I would credit to QF, which should get you ~12k QFF points per pax.

Vice-versa, if the bulk of your flights are on AA codes, I would credit to AA to earn 100% per mile flown on the AA coded legs.

Hopefully that made sense?

 

[verduzzo]

Thanks MEL Traveller, I imagine that's exactly where the confusion sets in. The issue is setting up family with a 30 day pass, who have no real working knowledge of these rules / relationships and expecting them to be able to argue the point with a similarly I'll-informed lounge sargeant!