A call to ban carry on

[simongr]

Hmm 8.5kg is pretty light for single person.

More seriously my hand luggage is generally 12kg for the rollaboard (laptop bag goes under the seat in front). As JohnK points out my regulation size rollaboard is one where you can fit three in a standard rollaboards - so three x 12 = 36kg - well under the rating for the overhead.

 

[simongr]

You heard of the people who are forced to repack their bags at check-in say, "What's the difference between 5 extra kilos in my hand baggage compared to 5 extra kilos in my checked bag? It's on the same aircraft, it's the same weight..."

One reason I heard of before is that a heavier bag will, if it falls, be a much greater hazard compared to a regulation bag. Perhaps dubious, but that's what I've heard. Having all said that, in America you can frequently take on a cabin bag which is substantially heavier than that allowed compared to most other carriers around the world (I think the limit is 18 kg or something...). 18 kg of bag falling out of an overhead onto someone would definitely hurt pretty bad.

It isn't a safety issue given BA allow 23kg in hand luggage - if they considered it a litigation risk then it would be 10Kg or less.

 

[anat0l]

It isn't a safety issue given BA allow 23kg in hand luggage - if they considered it a litigation risk then it would be 10Kg or less.

Well, be that as it may, I have no idea. There must be some sort of reason why your hand luggage just can't weigh as much as you like, as long as it fits in a standard sizer.

I should probably add that if you can't lift your own hand luggage into the overhead, it's too heavy! (That's not necessarily a reason why a limit, that's just me saying).

 

[lovestotravel]

Hmm 8.5kg is pretty light for single person.

More seriously my hand luggage is generally 12kg for the rollaboard (laptop bag goes under the seat in front). As JohnK points out my regulation size rollaboard is one where you can fit three in a standard rollaboards - so three x 12 = 36kg - well under the rating for the overhead.

Agree!

My rollaboard is a struggle to be less than 10kgs, add in a few cameras, cords, paperwork and the bag itself and 10kgs easy!

 

[ermen]

Reminded me of a case I recalled from yesteryear - a passenger sued SQ when an oversized bag hit his head causing injury and was awarded S$600k. So certainly precedent for legal liability if an oversized luggage caused injury to another passenger.

Excess baggage

 

[tuapekastar]

It isn't a safety issue given BA allow 23kg in hand luggage - if they considered it a litigation risk then it would be 10Kg or less.

They've 'enhanced' it! My recollection is that at one time there was no limit at all - you just had to be able to place it in the locker yourself (unassisted).

The differences between that (no real limit) and say 7 kgs with QF, I've always found puzzling.

 

[medhead]

The main reason I ditched the rollaboard is because the are invariably 2.4 kg empty. So if that ends up 10kg full then you can easily give up 2kg for wheels and get pretty close to a 7kg limit. Since I've move to a "Redox Airboss" (google is your friend) I have no problem keeping the main bag at about 7kg. Laptop satchel, on the other hand is difficult to keep under 7 kg depending on how much paperwork I lug around.

I should probably add that if you can't lift your own hand luggage into the overhead, it's too heavy! (That's not necessarily a reason why a limit, that's just me saying).

Of course, for those of us with conditions, even lifting 2kg above shoulder height can be an issue. I've had one passenger get all superior with me about limiting my carry weight. The stupid smug sod couldn't accept medical condition, maybe I should get a walking stick or something.


Sent from the Throne

 

[mannej]

It isn't a safety issue given BA allow 23kg in hand luggage - if they considered it a litigation risk then it would be 10Kg or less.

Just because an airline allows it doesn't negate the fact that it may well indeed be a safety issue.

I know I'd prefer to not be hit by a 23kg hand luggage projectile whilst flying.

 

[mannej]

The differences between that (no real limit) and say 7 kgs with QF, I've always found puzzling.

There are airlines who only allow 5 kg's as hand luggage

 

[jetlagger]

Reminded me of a case I recalled from yesteryear - a passenger sued SQ when an oversized bag hit his head causing injury and was awarded S$600k. So certainly precedent for legal liability if an oversized luggage caused injury to another passenger.

Excess baggage

Thanks for sharing the interesting article!
It is a repetitious thread & appropriate thread..
I have had a bruised hand from a falling ridiculously heavy laptop (not mine) from overhead before & I've seen a guy almost knocked out from a large falling bottle of Vodka- straight out of the overhead onto his noggin - (he had harsh words to the offending opener)
On some airlines I am supportive of the extra scrutinising of some passengers with too much carry on luggage.
I've seen similar scenarios to this on a few flights in my time whilst boarding..

 

[Kef]

How about you ease up on the over reacting by using the term "Bashing".LOL

I agree some guys can also take their time and also carry way to many items on board, of course it happens but the majority of the time it is woman and elderly.

Sorry if you don't like the truth, but just calling it as I see it.

p.s. My Mother, Girlfriend, and sisters are all women, so "ease up" on the I hate women theme please.

LOL, Heaven for bid women should have an opinion.. and voice it too.

I can handle the truth and I also call it as I see it too..

PS., I never implied you hated women, you came to that conclusion all by yourself...

 

[ashleyn]

This seems to fit into the same category as many discussions on this forum. Rules v what people think is a fair thing. If the airlines deem that your carry on should fit into the silver thing and weigh less than 7kg isn't that it ? Anything else gets checked in, end of story. Or am I missing something ?

 

[Kef]

Spot on ashleyn. Well put..

 

[jetlagger]

This seems to fit into the same category as many discussions on this forum. Rules v what people think is a fair thing. If the airlines deem that your carry on should fit into the silver thing and weigh less than 7kg isn't that it ? Anything else gets checked in, end of story. Or am I missing something ?

Applied Consistency!

 

[amaroo]

You heard of the people who are forced to repack their bags at check-in say,

It isn't a safety issue given BA allow 23kg in hand luggage - if they considered it a litigation risk then it would be 10Kg or less.

We got knocked back by BA last Dec LHR traveling F.

It was quite an irritation at the time - had to transfer <2kgs at check-in.....took two goes to distribute the load so that three bags didn't exceed 32kgs.

Forget about the fact that 5 of us had a collective allowance of 15 bags & 480kgs! however, I digress. The lovely agent explained that she was powerless to override as the system was designed to cut-out once over 32
kgs.

 

[Archphoto]

A couple of grand worth of medical equipment is another thing I'll never assign to checked luggage whether I need it onboard or not.


Sent from the Throne

Same for me with camera gear - had one bag lost for nearly 12 months! Caused me undue stress and problems trying to hire gear OS for a 4 week shoot. Last time I ever put all the gear in the hold - now my basic kit travels with me at all times; unfortunately its size can cause me hassles on certain aircraft. Trying to find a lightweight (photographic) roller that can fit everything easily and allow me to quickly access my personal items without needing to tear it apart is proving to be an event in itself!

 

[Alanslegal]

[I'll get flamed for this] but handbags (and to a lesser extent manbags) should go under the seat in front, not upstairs in a bin

 

[Heleigh]

[I'll get flamed for this] but handbags (and to a lesser extent manbags) should go under the seat in front, not upstairs in a bin

Totally agree with you the only time my handbag goes in overhead bin is when I sit in a bulkhead seat.

 

[jetlagger]

[I'll get flamed for this] but handbags (and to a lesser extent manbags) should go under the seat in front, not upstairs in a bin

Nobody (including myself) puts their dirty feet or shoes on my branded designer man bag!

 

[samh004]

[I'll get flamed for this] but handbags (and to a lesser extent manbags) should go under the seat in front, not upstairs in a bin

That seems perfectly logical, especially if your valuables are in the bag.