A bit of history

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  1. Yada Yada

    Yada Yada Established Member

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    I stumbled over this website today and saw a photo of an ex-AN 767 (or what's left of it) sitting in the desert:

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  2. JohnK

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    Memories....... Good photo.

    BTW how does a plane sit as opposed to standing? :roll:
     


  3. QF WP

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    Any idea of the rego of the plane and how it got there?? (and no wise cracks about it flew there!!)
     
  4. markis10

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    Most of them actually did fly to Mojave and then get parted out. looks like a 204 , possibly RMO that became N807AN, her is her history:

    RMO - Stored at the MEL Ansett Terminal.

    Test-flown 17/6/02, as AN4089.
    It departed Melbourne, as AN4040, 21/6/02, ferrying MEL-HNL & HNL-MHV 22/6/02, for storage at Mojave, California.
    Struck-Off-Register 27/6/02.
    Reregistered N807AN to MSA 5/7/02.
    Still stored at Mojave, CA, 30/6/04. Sold to AAR Parts Trading, Inc., 20/7/04. Parting-out, by Flight Director, commenced 8/04.
    Struck off the U.S. Register 20/8/04.
    Seen still WFU at Mojave 19/9/04 in basic Ansett scheme
    She was an ex Brittania aircraft that was expected to possibly fly again as she had a lot less cycles thann many AN 767's.
     
  5. MetroAir

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    Lao Air are flying an ex Ansett A320 - HYO I believe although it may be HYT, and still have the AN branded lifejackets for the safety demo.

    I was of the understanding that RMO was redelivered and not broken up - but perhaps I'm wrong.

    You can still buy a BAe 146 if you want one!

    Memories indeed!
     


  6. Mal

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    IIRC, OzJet are buying an ex-Ansett plane as part of their fleet!
     
  7. JohnK

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    What a disciplined bunch AFFers are? They provided the information you asked and not a single wise crack about the plane flying to get to the Mojave desert from MEL via HNL. What more could you wish for?
     
  8. Yada Yada

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    Sorry Lindsay, there is no other information on the website aside from some generic info about AN. Here is the link: http://www.airchive.com/SITE%20PAGES/VIN-MOJAVE.html

    Ah....hmm...., good point. I guess "standing" means it will be moving again soon. "Sitting" means it is there for longer. Perhaps I should have said "lying down", because it ain't going anywhere. :mrgreen:
     
  9. Yada Yada

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    Oh, BTW... on the page of photos at the website linked in my previous post, just above the photo of the AN 767 are some photos of an America West 737-200. Here is what they say:

    Hadn't heard that term before. So now I know that O7 flys "classics". :wink:
     
  10. Kiwi Flyer

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    yadayada - your avatar of the austrian airlines logo needs to be rotated 90 degree :lol:
     
  11. Yada Yada

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    I just Googled and every reference I found indicates you are correct - it is N807AN (VH-RMO), a 767-204.

    Here is a clearer photo showing the rego:
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    Link: http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=410018
     
  12. markis10

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    Here is a summary of what happened to the aircraft, its a little dated:

    A320's
    HYA - Air Luxor, Portugal
    HYB - Air Luxor, Portugal
    HYC - Lao Airlines
    HYD - Libyan Arab Airlines
    HYE - Storage, Cambridge UK
    HYF - UMAIr
    HYG - Bulgarian Aviation
    HYH - Eqagle Aviation france
    HYI - Afriqiyah Airways, Libya (This operated the last AN service)
    HYJ - LAT Charter Poland
    HYK - Afriqiyah Airways Libya
    HYL - Siberia Airlines
    HYM - Unknown
    HYN - Siberian Airlines
    HYO - Armavia of Armenia
    HYQ - Fonds GmbH
    HYR - Air Moldova
    HYS - Armavia of Armenia
    HYT - Air Moldova
    HYX - Free Bird Airlines, Turkey
    HYY - Azal Azerbaijan Airlines, Baku-Bina, Azerbaijan

    737
    CZA - Airlift Trading Ltd, Auckland (Wet leased by Vanair till Dec 04)
    CZB - Jet2 Airways
    CZC - Grupo Turistico Magno Mexico
    CZD - Scrapped at BNE
    CZE - Jet2 Spain
    CZF - Jet2 Spain
    CZG - Dart group UK
    CZH - Jet2
    CZi - jet2
    CZJ - Jet2
    CZK - Channel Express
    CZL - Jet2
    CZM - Dart group
    CZN - Dart Group
    CZO - Merpati Nusantara
    CZP - Merpati Nusantara
    CZQ - Virgin Blue (Retired from fleet earlier this year I think)
    CZR - Aérolineas Aéreas Azteca Mexico
    CZS - Aérolineas Aéreas Azteca Mexico
    CZT - Varig
    CZU - Leased to QF NZ until 10/04
    CZV - Jet2
    CZW - jet2
    CZX - Dart Group
     
  13. Yada Yada

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  14. kristo1

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    Could I sell it and get some value for my Ansett FF points?
     
  15. NM

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    Took me a while to be convinced this was actually VH-RMO. RMO was a 767-200 and the image clearly shows two over-wing emergency exits - only seen on certain configs of 767-300 aircraft (such as 767-338, as opposed to 767-336 that have the full-size emergency doors fore and aft of the wing).

    Comparing with another image of RMO in her glory days, it appears the window immediately after the over-wing exit has been cut out and looks like a second exit even though it never was.

    So even though it first struck me as a 763, it is obviously 762 length.

    Its strange that when it arrived in Mojave it was still registered VH-RMO, as seen here in this photo dated 6th December 2002. So why was the rego changed after arrival if it never left the desert?
     
  16. QF WP

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    Maybe it's like cars....take your car over to the USA and you have to get a new licence plate. Although crazy to have to go through to process to re-register only to de-register straight away.
     
  17. markis10

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    An aircraft can only be registered with a VH if it will operate under Australian rules from a base in Australia. So as soon as an aircraft is sold and goes overseas, it needs to get a new rego based on the intended company of operation.

    RMO got caught in the glut of relatively new aircraft that came onto the market following 9/11 and its aftermath, and 767-200s were not as cheap to operate compared to similar priced used aircraft, dont forget Ansett were operating 767s with a three seat cockpit.

    I believe Air Pacific are using VH -ANA 747-400 still.
     
  18. NM

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    She say all covered up, but still in tact, for nearly 2 years before being parted out. Still strange to me that they went to the trouble to register it with an N-rego. I would have thought that would only happen if it was about to fly again and not until there was a buyer (or portential buyer) for it.
    I believe RMO was a 2-seat cockpit, unlike many of the AN 676-200's.
     
  19. markis10

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    [quote="NM" I believe RMO was a 2-seat cockpit, unlike many of the AN 676-200's.[/quote]

    You would be right on that score being a bird made for Britannia (hence the 204 desig). Whats really weird is that most of the 204 birds have been scrapped or stored, with one at AKL being used as a fire trainer (ZK-NBJ) and RML also being stored for instance.

    I have heard that aircraft off the line that go straight to Australia achieve much higher resale value because they used to be in better shape from maintenance then when they left the line, however I suspect that these days that may not be the case with a lot of overhauls being done out of country.
     
  20. NM

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    Keep in mind that one of the factors that contributed to the downfall of AN was the maintenance process issues they had with the 767 fleet and the subsequent groundings until they sorted out the paperwork etc. Perhaps that also contributed to resale problems if the full maintenance history could not be proven.
     
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