Actually, "seizing" is the word used by TAIC (Transport Accident Investigation Commission - NZ). "TAIC is in the process of gathering evidence relevant to the inquiry, including seizing the coughpit voice and flight data recorders." See TAIC assisting Chile investigation into LATAM flight LA800 accident | TAIC.
SQ has no 787-9s.
Yes, and I am waiting to see if anyone comes up with “2 pilots falling asleep at the wheel with the autopilot off” theory..
Which would be somewhat similar to this RAF A330 incident.
Yes. See QF72 incident (the scary one off the WA coast where the a330 computer decided to dive the plane).
It doesn't take much of a drop (and it's more the roof comes to you, rather than you go to the roof!)
Normally I would agree with waiting for official report although i found a lot of interesting info from the contributors to this thread, particularly about the systems computer needing to be shut down by 50+ days, as well as the fact it takes a while for the investigation findings to be announced, often at a time when other news takes more centre stageABC News is reporting the pilot seat movement investigation angle for this this incident:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03...tigtion-reportedly-on-coughpit-seat/103575728
I do wonder if a pilot dropped their mobile phone and moved the seat to try to retrieve it, rather than asking the cabin crew for assistance
Awaiting official reports rather than media speculation for any real understanding of what caused the event.
Certainly lots of interesting information circulating. While we won't "know" the details until official reports are published, discussion of possible causes, actions, results etc. can be very interesting. We just need to keep in mind that it is speculation until confirmed. Speculation is fine, so long as we treat it as speculation and not as fact.
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Showing my age but whenever someone mentioned plane autopilot, I have this mental picture of some scenes from Airplane!/Flying High movie, when it gets disconnected/disengaged (and how Elaine saved the day)
Like all pilots, I hate the term 'nosedive'. It's just a dive...unless it's going backwards, in which case it's a tailslide.
Interesting. I wouldn't have thought even full forward on the seat would be enough to push you onto the yoke, though it could certainly restrict the amount of rearward (nose up) yoke motion available. Seat motion isn't all that fast either.
I don't think any of us are going to experiment with slamming the yoke in any direction. I suspect that it will initially resist your input, but if you keep it up it would disengage. That's not the only behaviour possible though. Older Airbus designs (300/310) would drop to a mode called control wheel steering if you moved the yoke, with a gotcha in that they only changed modes in the channel you'd moved (i.e. pitch or roll).
Yes, that's how it is. Elaine is a very useful person.
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