28° Mastercard Cash Advances while overseas [No more free cash advances from 1/1/14]

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thank you that was very helpful. so just to confirm after i put my own finds on the card i just press credit card and the amount i want on atm? i dont use the cash advance button?
thanks

Yep. I've found that in Europe it won't give you an option anyway. If it does give you the option simply select Credit. Speaking of which, when I put the card into the machine it makes an awful noise and I keep worrying it's going to chew my card! :shock:
 
I did the same with my Wizard card, namely made a payment so that the card was in credit so that I could us it to get cash advances when in the USA/Canada over the past four weeks. I returned home yesterday from SFO (10/9/10), but two weeks ago lost my wallet at a baseball game in Vancouver. Wizard do not send emergency cards under these circumstances, unlike American Express as a replacement emergency card arrived within three days, so if you load up your Wizard card make sure you treat it like gold. I was in the same boat with ANZ Visa as they could only send a replacement card within 10 working days, but only to an Australian address. Luckily for Amex I was able to enjoy the remaining two weeks of my trip.
 
Woohoo, I got a credit limit increase offer! Granted, it was only $1000 => $1500, but still, it's better than a kick up the backside.
 
Hi all,

I've just got back from a year in europe, where I used my Wizard Clear Advantage MasterCard for all my cash and purchases. I called them a few times before I went, and perfected a system for using the card to ensure you don't incur any fees/charges for ATM withdrawals and purchases:

1. Decide how much you want to take out in (local currency) cash, lets say €1,000.

2. Go to the xe website (they also have a handy iphone app). Find out what the equivalent is in AUD at the current exchange rate, ie €1,000=AUD$1,418.68.

3. Bpay this amount in australian dollars onto your wizard clear advantage account (plus say $5 or $10 in case the exchange rate changes in 1 day's time - so lets say AUD$1,425).

4. Check on the online service centre, to see when the money has appeared. You need to look at 'available credit', NOT "current balance". The current balance takes several days to update (as it needs to wait for the transactions to 'post', but the "available credit" is always correct for at that moment). E.g., if you're credit limit is $6000, you will know the money has turned up when the credit limit changes to $7,425.

5. Once the balance has appeared, go to the ATM and take out €1,000. Place it in your foreign bank account (this is what I did - I had a free bank account with ING in the Netherlands), or whatever you want to do with it.

6. Check on the online service centre, to make sure you haven't taken more than you transferred out (this is important - see below).

7. Now, you can start making purchases with your card. You can keep on making purchases with your card and will get up to the normal 55 days interest free, or whenever you to take more money out.

8. When you need to take more money out, follow steps 1-6 again. However, this time, you will need to add the AUD equivalent of what you want to withdraw PLUS whatever you have spent below your credit limit in AUD.

I.e. lets say your "credit limit" is $6,000 and your "available credit" is $5,100. Lets say you want to take out €100. On, xe €100 = AUD$141.87 (call it $145 for a bit of a buffer). We need to bpay $900 + $145 = $1045. And we need to wait until the 'available credit" changes to $6,145.

Make sense?


One more thing to be careful about: when you take out cash, you must make sure you don't take out more than you have b-paid on.

For example, lets say you transfer on only $140, and then take out €100 (which ends up getting charged as, say $142.34), your available credit will now be $5,998.

What happens now is that Wizard starts charging you cash advance rates (19.49%) from that day. AND if you make purchases, you will also pay 19.49% from the day you make that purchase as well. To avoid be charged the 10.49%, make sure when you withdraw money that you always stay "in the positive", ie it says your available credit is higher than your credit limit.


So, here's my question for you guys. The only annoying thing about this, is that as soon as you want to take more cash out, you need to bpay money for that cash-out, PLUS pay off any purchases you've made up to that date. Ideally, I'd love to have 2 wizard clear advantage mastercards: one to take cash out with (and I can just bpay money on, each time I want to take out more), and one to make purchases (and I just pay this off monthly, by my payment date).

So the question is: are there any other australian credit cards out there, that charge no fees (foreign currency + whatever else) for overseas purchases? That way I could have my ideal situation!

Hope this helps. If you have any questions, post them here, and I can reply to them.
 
Hi all,

I've just got back from a year in europe, where I used my Wizard Clear Advantage MasterCard for all my cash and purchases. I called them a few times before I went, and perfected a system for using the card to ensure you don't incur any fees/charges for ATM withdrawals and purchases:

1. Decide how much you want to take out in (local currency) cash, lets say €1,000.

2. Go to the xe website (they also have a handy iphone app). Find out what the equivalent is in AUD at the current exchange rate, ie €1,000=AUD$1,418.68.

3. Bpay this amount in australian dollars onto your wizard clear advantage account (plus say $5 or $10 in case the exchange rate changes in 1 day's time - so lets say AUD$1,425).

4. Check on the online service centre, to see when the money has appeared. You need to look at 'available credit', NOT "current balance". The current balance takes several days to update (as it needs to wait for the transactions to 'post', but the "available credit" is always correct for at that moment). E.g., if you're credit limit is $6000, you will know the money has turned up when the credit limit changes to $7,425.

5. Once the balance has appeared, go to the ATM and take out €1,000. Place it in your foreign bank account (this is what I did - I had a free bank account with ING in the Netherlands), or whatever you want to do with it.

6. Check on the online service centre, to make sure you haven't taken more than you transferred out (this is important - see below).

7. Now, you can start making purchases with your card. You can keep on making purchases with your card and will get up to the normal 55 days interest free, or whenever you to take more money out.

8. When you need to take more money out, follow steps 1-6 again. However, this time, you will need to add the AUD equivalent of what you want to withdraw PLUS whatever you have spent below your credit limit in AUD.

I.e. lets say your "credit limit" is $6,000 and your "available credit" is $5,100. Lets say you want to take out €100. On, xe €100 = AUD$141.87 (call it $145 for a bit of a buffer). We need to bpay $900 + $145 = $1045. And we need to wait until the 'available credit" changes to $6,145.

Make sense?


One more thing to be careful about: when you take out cash, you must make sure you don't take out more than you have b-paid on.

For example, lets say you transfer on only $140, and then take out €100 (which ends up getting charged as, say $142.34), your available credit will now be $5,998.

What happens now is that Wizard starts charging you cash advance rates (19.49%) from that day. AND if you make purchases, you will also pay 19.49% from the day you make that purchase as well. To avoid be charged the 10.49%, make sure when you withdraw money that you always stay "in the positive", ie it says your available credit is higher than your credit limit.


So, here's my question for you guys. The only annoying thing about this, is that as soon as you want to take more cash out, you need to bpay money for that cash-out, PLUS pay off any purchases you've made up to that date. Ideally, I'd love to have 2 wizard clear advantage mastercards: one to take cash out with (and I can just bpay money on, each time I want to take out more), and one to make purchases (and I just pay this off monthly, by my payment date).

So the question is: are there any other australian credit cards out there, that charge no fees (foreign currency + whatever else) for overseas purchases? That way I could have my ideal situation!

Hope this helps. If you have any questions, post them here, and I can reply to them.

The only problem I see is lag in timezones, etc. It basically adds an extra day on.

I like the ING Direct account, which is free in Australia ; withdrawals are $2.50 AUD per withdrawal but it's still cheaper than using another bank account that gets hit with currency conversion! Note this card is only good for that, as purchases on the Visa Debit card are charged currency conversion.
 
The only problem I see is lag in timezones, etc. It basically adds an extra day on.

That's true, but from my experience if you make sure you have processed the bpay before 5.00pm AET, then it usually turns up on the Wizard account by 2.am AET (the next morning, ie 9 hrs later), or 8.am AET at the latest.
 
I inquired with Wizard before going overseas and I was told I can take cash advances and I won't be charged interest as long as the balance is zeroed before the 55 days. What you are saying is scary!

I really did not use my Wizard card that much and I mainly used my NAB Gold Banking Visa Debit card. That would give you your ideal situation.

I only used my wizard card for stuff where they don't accept visa debit, like hostelworld and booking flights and other stuff where mastercard is easier.
 
I inquired with Wizard before going overseas and I was told I can take cash advances and I won't be charged interest as long as the balance is zeroed before the 55 days. What you are saying is scary!

The 55 days only relates to Mastercard purchases, not cash advances, as interests on any cash advance commences the day you get the money.
 
For example, lets say you transfer on only $140, and then take out €100 (which ends up getting charged as, say $142.34), your available credit will now be $5,998.

What happens now is that Wizard starts charging you cash advance rates (19.49%) from that day. AND if you make purchases, you will also pay 19.49% from the day you make that purchase as well. To avoid be charged the 10.49%, make sure when you withdraw money that you always stay "in the positive", ie it says your available credit is higher than your credit limit.

? Won't the (up to) 55 days free credit still apply for new purchases?
 
just to confirm if you have an outstanding cash advance, your purchases will still get the 55 days interest free (provided, of course, you pay your account balance in full by the due date each month)

there was some confusing advice in Ausie777s post.

Aussie777s advice is good but extremely complicated. An even easier way of doing it is just to log on to your account, see how much available balance you have, then go make the cash withdrawal, and see what the new available balance is.

The difference between the two available balances = the amount of the cash advance\ (provided you haven't made any purchases or other transaction in between).

If you bpay that on the same day it will cancel out the cash advance.

It reallly is no big deal if you get the amount of the cash advance wrong... if you take out $1000 and bpay the same, but the actual amount comes in at $1001, you're only paying interest on the $1 - and your purchases are still interest free - so its not at 'vital' to get the amount right as aussie was pointing out.

Then again there is an even easier way. Just take the money out, estimate how much it would be in AUD, and anytime you happen to be at a computer over the next day or two, pbay the money in.

This SAVES having to log in, check balances, withdraw cash, check balances again, pbay and have all the stress and worry about 'getting it right'.

Withdrawing $1000 will cost about 50c a day. Using the above method I pay around $2-$3 a month in billed finance charges. A fraction of what I save by using wizard, and no stress or hassel to race and check amounts and withdrawals, or to make sure my account is in credit etc etc. but each to their own :)
 
Anyone get the survey email yesterday with (Win 1 of 10 ipads)

I got it but got excluded on the first question (hint don't say you work for a financial institution)

What were the questions like?

Also noted on the new website - Wizard Clear Advantage Mastercard
that they show a picture of a chipped card

Has anyone actually got a chipped card?
 
Anyone complete the survey??

Interestingly I heard from a person who works at Aussie that GE only has the license to use the Wizard brand for the credit card for two years, so this may be suggesting some changes afoot (aussie bought rest of wizard in Feb-09)
 
Slightly off the most recent topics, but can anyone tell me which ATMs in the USA are providing fee free cash advances using the Wizard M/C ?
 
I called up to get the new chip cards.

Told that the card is now called 28 Degrees (anyone know where is name/brand came from?) Changes also published on the net. Looks like still NO annual fee and NO Int'l Transaction fee!

The picture shows that the card will also have Pay Pass.

Told to expect new card in about 7-14 days.
 
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Slightly off the most recent topics, but can anyone tell me which ATMs in the USA are providing fee free cash advances using the Wizard M/C ?

Had no problems with Chase - either branch or Duane Reade (NY).
I think most of the major bank ones are fee free - all the non-branded ones will charge
 
When I was there about a year ago I found that the Bank of America ones all charged a fee, though it varied from location to location.
 
When I was there about a year ago I found that the Bank of America ones all charged a fee, though it varied from location to location.
The only ATMs I could find at LAX (TBIT, T3) were BoA, and they charge $2...in the scheme of things, not a big deal.
 
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