165000 Worthless Qantas FF points

[fireant]

>Speaking as an Accountant something which allows you to obtain something else at a discount is not generally referred to as being "worthless".

Worthless to me love. Bit like a MacDonalds voucher for a vegeterian ... (get the point ? )

>Also speaking as an Accoiuntant, i am really OVER hearing people lament the demise of a company that went under largely as a direct result of its largesse.

Umm.. I am not lamenting the demise of Ansett .. just the pricing for my so called "Free" ticket. I do lament the fact that since they have gone my costs for a so called free ticket have gone up. BTW we lost 174k in Ansett points and we didn't lose much sleep over it ..

>I am sorry that Qantas values its continued operation as a business above your ability to appear as a generous benefactor to your "dirt poor" relatives at its expense.

Good for you. But what I am sorry about is the changes to what I considered a good FF scheme. Now I don't think I have to be an Accountant (thank god I am not) to see that the Rewards program has become a watered down version of what it was. So I will feel free to critisise it if I feel like it............ if thats ok with you ?

>It really shows your generous nature that you are not prepared to assist people significantly worse off than yourself unless it costs you nothing. How could I have been so misguided to refer to you as a tightarse?
Here's a thought - offer the points to the relos on the proviso that they pay the fees themselves. That way you only have to give away something you got for free that you don't want yourself, and then no-one can mistake you for being genuinely generous.


Obviously your nasty little mind works like this .. mine does not .. I would like to give my points away for free to someone who I think needs them.
The relatives indeed know that we used to get the tickets more or less for free and we have in the past paid the taxes ourselves, so as for "appearing" generous umm.. well thats not the intention and its a bit hard to do so when they know your getting them free (past tense) anyway.

As hard as it may be for you to understand, it's to make peoples lives a little brighter not to enhance our "reputations" in the family. Now I should put my hand in my pocket you say. My answer is just how the hell would you know if we do or we don't ?

Please put your brain in gear before your next post.

 

[fireant]

Hey fireant. Karen makes a good point about your sphincter. Open your wallet instead of the mouth, perhaps sell one of the cars if you need the additional cash for taxes and charges.

Just can't help yourself can you ... see above. The same points apply to you also.

Not everyone is as small minded as you and Karen.

Both you and that silly cow have no idea how tight or otherwise I am. Or for that matter who and who I don't care for financialy or otherwise. So until you do, your comments are foolish and not based on any factual evidence whatever.

I am however a bit of a fool myself for even argueing with you 2 .. as someone said don't argue with a fool they will just bring you down to there level and beat you with experience !


BTW for your info (like its any of your's or Karens business whatsoever) .. just so you can take the other foot out. We are considering splitting the cost to get them here with her sisters family.

 

[markis10]

Can I suggest you spend some of those useless points on a few nights in a hotel with your wife - i think you need some love! But dont touch the mini bar - the fees are shocking :twisted:

 

[fireant]

Can I suggest you spend some of those useless points on a few nights in a hotel with your wife - i think you need some love! But dont touch the mini bar - the fees are shocking :twisted:

I have seen enough hotel rooms to last me a lifetime. But I suppose we could give a free stay away at a hotel for someone.

But this is not what I consider "helping" people thats more like trying to appear like Santa as the 2 fools above were trying to imply.

The program was very useful for getting people around the place and strengthing famliy ties when it was of little cost to us but to suggest that we now pay heaps and be happy because poor old Qantas have to make a buck, and that we are tight for not doing it is frankly bullshit.

 

[Karen]

Dirt poor relatives

I really don't understand why people see themselves as saints for letting relos use their FF points. My brother and his new wife are currently enjoying their honeymoon on a points fuelled jaunt (courtesy of moi) and I was so embarrased at seeming like a scab (in spite of the $300+ fees and charges) for giving them that as a wedding gift that I went out and bought them a guilt assuaging gift as well.

Its probably because I have THREE houses as well as the TWO cars. ROFLMFAO! :mrgreen: But thats OK fireant, we all think you're special anyway, really we do. And not a tightarse at all... :shock:

 

[straitman]

Can I suggest you spend some of those useless points on a few nights in a hotel with your wife - i think you need some love! But dont touch the mini bar - the fees are shocking :twisted:

I have seen enough hotel rooms to last me a lifetime. But I suppose we could give a free stay away at a hotel for someone.

But this is not what I consider "helping" people thats more like trying to appear like Santa as the 2 fools above were trying to imply.

The program was very useful for getting people around the place and strengthing famliy ties when it was of little cost to us but to suggest that we now pay heaps and be happy because poor old Qantas have to make a buck, and that we are tight for not doing it is frankly bullshit.

fireant,

I've watched this forum grow, go off the rails and then some kind folks attempt to offer conciliation to you.

I have to now conclude (as the optimist I am) that you are just out to have a winge irrespective of what is offered so it's you who are the fool:!:

Put things in perspective. Qantas is a commercial enterprise and one of the few profitable airlines in the world. I don't like having to pay the add-ons any more than the next guy, however it's a fact of life :!:

Like you I don't need a whole lot more time in an Aluminium tube or another Hotel room, however once again it's a fact of life:!: 8)

Harping back to the good old Ansett days doesn't help at all. Unfortunately Ansett isn't a fact of life any more and there is nothing that you or any of us are able to do about that :!: :cry:

Maybe you need to remember a basic rule of life: :idea:
1. Accept things as they are, or
2. Change the things you can and accept the rest, or
3. Go somewhere else :!:

I think it's time you picked option 3. :evil:

Admin:
As Lindsay Wilson stated this morning at 12:46 AM, it's time to intervene here. I'll go further and suggest that you either close the forum or that we all stop posting to it and let the fool go his own way :!:

 

[fireant]

Re: Dirt poor relatives

>I really don't understand why people see themselves as saints for letting relos use their FF points. My brother and his new wife are currently enjoying their honeymoon on a points fuelled jaunt (courtesy of moi) and

I don't think the saint question was ever raised .. We are not trying to be saints .. just giving away something we don't want to someone who could use it. Putting something in a ST Vinnies bin would obviously be too saintly to you also I guess.

>I was so embarrased at seeming like a scab (in spite of the $300+ fees and charges) for giving them that as a wedding gift that I went out and bought them a guilt assuaging gift as well.

I hope the 2 for one vouchers for McDonnalds you threw in made you feel better.

>Its probably because I have THREE houses as well as the TWO cars. ROFLMFAO! :mrgreen: But thats OK fireant, we all think you're special anyway, really we do. And not a tightarse at all... :shock:[/quote]

Good for you but the point I was trying to make about the fact I had a house and 2 cars was that I don't need accommodation or transport .. not that I was rich ... you mistook my meaning entirely.

You really do have to spell it out for some people dont you. :roll:

They must have lowered the bar for the Accountants exam if you ask me.

 

[fireant]

See the thing is .. if you start slinging cough at me.. I will sling some back thats how life works also.

So before you start it make sure you can take it OK ?

I didn't start this cough. Thats for sure.

 

[Karen]

How you have ever managed to mistake me for anyone who is even the remotest bit slighted or hurt by what other deluded individuals think of me is truly beyond my comprehension. However if it will make you feel vindicated I can act all hurt. Boo, hoo :cry: . Did that float your boat honey?

The big bad man who has never met me in my entire life thinks I must have given the CPA president a blow job to get my practising certificate. :shock: I think I need need to pull a John Brogden as a result - not.

Are you serious? People think you are a knob, based solely on evidence provided by your own whingeing, and then you decide to throw around school-yard insults predicated solely on your own imagination as a revenge tactic? Puh-lease. You can fess up, fireant - its really your Mum's 165k and the reason you're pissed is you haven't made $450 on your paper run this month isn't it?

LMAO. The world is really an interesting place.

 

[fireant]

>I've watched this forum grow, go off the rails and then some kind folks attempt to offer conciliation to you.
I have to now conclude (as the optimist I am) that you are just out to have a winge irrespective of what is offered so it's you who are the fool:!:

Umm I reserve my right not to be happy with any of the suggestions offered I am afraid. I didn't come here for advice I came to let anyone who cared to press the thread button know what I think of Qantas's FF program.

>Put things in perspective. Qantas is a commercial enterprise and one of the few profitable airlines in the world. I don't like having to pay the add-ons any more than the next guy, however it's a fact of life :!:

It is a fact of life but once again I don't have to be happy about it.

>Like you I don't need a whole lot more time in an Aluminium tube or another Hotel room, however once again it's a fact of life:!: 8)

Not for me it isn't .. I choose not to participate.

>Harping back to the good old Ansett days doesn't help at all. Unfortunately Ansett isn't a fact of life any more and there is nothing that you or any of us are able to do about that :!: :cry:

Well I was simply refering to the fact that it was a lot fairer (for want of a better word) "back in the recent past" I know lil'ol'me can't directly change that BUT I will let whoever cares to listen/Read know what I think of the current program.

>Maybe you need to remember a basic rule of life: :idea:
1. Accept things as they are, or
2. Change the things you can and accept the rest, or
3. Go somewhere else :!:

Putting my thoughts in print and in public I think would fit under option 2 quite nicely thanks. Change comes about through dialogue and lobbying.
I am sure someone from Qantas reads this page. Maybe they don't give a stuff but I bet they read it.

>I think it's time you picked option 3. :evil:

You can of course think what you like ... as can I.

 

[NM]

I will make two more suggestions:

1. Try to route the award tickets with the minimum number of segments, hence minimising the fuel surcharge. Again, by my calcs an award ticket ISA-BNE-PER and return should be around $150 per ticket in charges.

2. If you find yourself flying so much for work that you don't want to fly for pleasure/holidays, why not redeem some of those points for upgrades on the flights you are already taking. Upgrades are a way of reducing the balance of useless points without incurring any extra fees and charges. And if you are flying anyway for work purposes, you might as well enjoy the trip a little more. Or are you always flying in business/first class anyway?

If you don't see these as helpful suggestions, then I will consider this thread troll-fodder.

 

[straitman]

http://www.flyaow.com/classamex.htm

Thanks NM. I was just thinking the same thing myself. A troll is worth a bit of fun occasionally.

On the other hand if ------- Na forget it!

 

[fireant]

I will make two more suggestions:

>1. Try to route the award tickets with the minimum number of segments, hence minimising the fuel surcharge. Again, by my calcs an award ticket ISA-BNE-PER and return should be around $150 per ticket in charges.

Thanks NM I really appreciate your trying to help and it's very nice to see someone offer some constructive advice.

We got told that by the girl on the ticket counter .. those were the only available segments though.


>2. If you find yourself flying so much for work that you don't want to fly for pleasure/holidays, why not redeem some of those points for upgrades on the flights you are already taking. Upgrades are a way of reducing the balance of useless points without incurring any extra fees and charges. And if you are flying anyway for work purposes, you might as well enjoy the trip a little more. Or are you always flying in business/first class anyway?

Yes its always business for my wife. She is platinum with SC's comming out her backside. We went to Canada last xmas and used some to upgrade to business that was nice but it really put the icing on the cake about flying for fun for us .. it was a cough of a trip even in a fat seat.

Once there it was nice of course but no ... no more flying for us for pleasure for about 10 years .. we might forget about how we hated it so much by then.

Funny thing is I am a pilot but the only time I actually enjoyed being up the back was when a kind captain gave me the jump seat into sydney on an A320 airbus one night. Now that I don't mind paying for ! (pre september 11 of course)

>If you don't see these as helpful suggestions, then I will consider this thread troll-fodder.

Dude at the risk of repeating myself I am not ever going to be happy about the changes made to the FF program. Thanks for your input though !

 

[shillard]

Stick your points up your jumper Qantas ... every chance we get we will choose another airline over your's

Good call - clearly the points you accumulate on Virgin & JetStar will be far more useable.

Be sure to hang your tiara up before going to bed, princess.

 

[straitman]

Stick your points up your jumper Qantas ... every chance we get we will choose another airline over your's

Good call - clearly the points you accumulate on Virgin & JetStar will be far more useable.

Be sure to hang your tiara up before going to bed, princess.

Do I detect a note of cynicism here shillard :?:

 

[shillard]

From me?

I'm astonished that you could even think such a thing.

 

[admin]

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