OWE additional baggage allowance on Qantas

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Hi all, not sure if this is the correct forum. I want some feedback and comments about a recent experience of mine.

I am a BA OWE. I recently travelled on Qantas and from the oneworld.com website it states that OW emerald members are allowed an additional piece of checked in baggage, or where a weight allowance is in place an additional 20kg.

I was travelling to London in PE, cabin allowance was 40kg. I had 60kg.

I had an unpleasant situation where I spent 45 minutes arguing with the Qantas check in staff who apparantly rang Qantas international, oneworld and BA and they denied that this was the case. They refused to look at the website on my iphone. Amongst various reasons given one was 'we reciprocate what BA would give our platinum members which is no additional baggage allowance' despite the BA.com website stating the exact opposite. In the end I had to capitulate as I was going to miss my connection back to London and was charged an excess baggage fee.

Comments? Anyone with similar experience? I'm in the mind of writing a letter of complaint to both Qantas and oneworld.

Thanks!
 
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I can't see why you shouldn't be allowed an extra 20kg. It is a One world benefit for OWE members.

(As you quoted... It is listed here http://www.oneworld.com/ffp/emerald-privileges )

Customer service should be able to refund the incorrect charge and I really hope you don't have to escalate it.

It saddens me when airlines don't know their responsibilities under the OW agreements and what benefits someone should have. (And as an aside... I'm sick of BA only allowing BA / IB elites and Amex Centurion members + first + business access to fast track at Heathrow T5 where Qantas extends that benefit to BA elites! )
 
I am QF Plat. Flew BA discount economy within Europe last week and my weight per piece was upgraded from the 23kg to 32kg no problem because I'm OWE. So no problem with BA honouring their side.
 
Comments? Anyone with similar experience? I'm in the mind of writing a letter of complaint to both Qantas an!

There was a similar case at SYD F checkin, recently posted on AFF. Not identical though as it related to the extra allowance not being permitted on through check from QF to CX. The traveller complained and was offered reimbursement of excess baggage fees ( but didn't actually pay any because they elected to collect/recheck at HKG and correctly CX didn't require payment of excess baggage charges).

Definitely write to QF.
 
I actually had a very similar experience on my trip to South America flying Qantas and LAN. Traveling to anywhere in the America's as a silver and above FF member you are allowed 3 pieces of checked luggage at 20kg's a pop. I always have my carry on luggage (1 bag), and my camera bag. It's 2 pieces, but the camera bag is more like a laptop bag and it has never been a problem on the 20+ flights I've taken both bags on. That was until this Qantas flight through Auckland. When I was boarding the lady checking tickets said I had too much stuff and that I'd need to check a bag. I said OK no problem and she directed me to her manager. I had my check in bag receipt for the 2 bags I already checked and he proceeded to rudely tell me how I snuck my extra bags past the check in counter and how that was unacceptable. I explained that I am not a spy and didn't sneak anything past check in, and I asked what he was talking about. He said there is no way I had any business trying to carry on that much stuff. I explained to him that every time I fly to NZ this is exactly what I carry on and it is never a problem, and check in also had not problem with it (even though I did not ask them as this is the norm for me).

I then explained that I had no problem checking in my 3rd bag and asked that we get on with it. He said sure, that will be $150. I then said your own airlines rules state that I am allowed 3 checked bags. I broke out the IPAD and tried showing him on the website. He refused to look, said too bad, and also said that I can't board the plane unless I pay, or I can leave my bag. At this point I broke out my iphone, snapped a photo of him, and then I began to video record the conversation. In interview style I spoke his name and asked him why he was not following his own employers rules. He filibustered the question and said he did not care and I can leave my bag. I said the $150 fee he was attempting to extort was outrageous, and that I have never been treated in this manner by any Australian company, let alone Qantas. He then said that he can go get his manager and that the manager will charge me more that $150 and he was being generous. I said, yes please go get your manager, and that I can't wait to show him this video and how rude you are being. He said he would go get his manager, but the gate is closing in 5 minutes and that i was going to miss the flight. I realised he was right and tried to appeal to the lady who initially flagged me to him that I was allowed to check 3 bags. She said yes I was right, but he gave her an evil look and she quickly apologised to me and went away as everyone had boarded and her job was done. I had no choice but to pay at that point as I could not miss the flight.

However, when I got on the plane I complained to the the flight attendant. He saw what I had left as carry on and said that it was ridiculous. The flight wasn't even half full, and he moved me to my own row, sat next to me for 5 minutes after meals were served, and kept giving refilling my glass full of champers. He wrote the entire ordeal down in detail. He then watched the event on video and agreed that the guy was a total jerk. He advised me to write to Qantas, and then he wrote to Qantas on my behalf as well and CC'd me in on the communication. I also note that after traveling on 8 flights within South America, then my flights back to SYD back through AKL I took the carry on load out that I was denied on this flight with no problems.

This all happened on May 17th. On Friday I got a call from Qantas customer service. They firstly said that they were impressed by how detailed my email was. Especially that it was specific with names, dates, and flights. It seems this is key as many people are not and just give generally descriptions of people they dealt with. Secondly they apologised profusely because this guy was in the wrong. Thirdly they said that this guys manager and department(ground staff) had been notified and given all the information, and that he would be dealt with. Lastly they refunded me my $150. It took a while for Qantas to get back to me, but they did. Write to them. Be specific. I asked them if they wanted the video of the incident, but they said it wan't necessary. That was disappointing, because the guy just got more belligerent because I was recording. He kept saying it doesn't mater if I take his name and recorded all I want, I'm still paying the $150. I still get ticked thinking about it even though I schooled him in the end. I do wonder what, if anything, will be done in form of discipline. It was an appalling way to treat a customer and he seemed to revel in it. Like a piece of dirt I felt. coughpy way to start the holiday, but was great from there on.

The situation is a little different to yours, but my point is that he was in the wrong, and I bet Qantas rights the wrong if you write a thoughtful letter. Make it detailed. I hope you took names, or even video!
 
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I really ilked you 'take a photo' and 'record the conversation' thing. I must remember this next time!

The only thing is that I had 65kgs (OWE allowance 60kg, cabin class allowance 40kg). In the end they charged me only 5kg international excess baggage ($300) which they were entitled to charge me (I might add the A380 was half empty). The only point of a complaint would be to get an apology for the unpleasant situation I had, almost missing my flight and to educate the QF ground staff in future.

I only remember one name of the desk supervisor, not the check in guy and the other sales desk staff.

They refused to look at my iphone to check the website
 
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I really ilked you 'take a photo' and 'record the conversation' thing. I must remember this next time!

The only thing is that I had 65kgs (OWE allowance 60kg, cabin class allowance 40kg). In the end they charged me only 5kg international excess baggage ($300) which they were entitled to charge me (I might add the A380 was half empty). The only point of a complaint would be to get an apology for the unpleasant situation I had, almost missing my flight and to educate the QF ground staff in future.

I only remember one name of the desk supervisor, not the check in guy and the other sales desk staff.

They refused to look at my iphone to check the website

LOL, yeah, looking back it is pretty funny. I don't know what prompted me to do it, and it was spur of the moment. When I took his name he said I can take his name all I want and it wasn't going to matter. I was writing it down in my notes app on the iphone and thought why not snap a picture of the guy for a record of evidence. When I noticed THAT got under his skin I thought why not document it with video. I thought he would be a little less rude at that point as it totally puts him on the spot, but nope, he became even more of a jerk, and was totally going against his employers rules. These guys are counting on you not taking their names and not being bothered complaining. They think they are some sort of boss, and are probably trained in some capacity to have that attitude. When something like that happens you've got to stay composed, know the rules you are traveling under and state your case. When they don't oblige you have to take their info down, and write to their employers. These guys are in the business of customer service. Qantas customers pay thousands to fly overseas and it is unacceptable to be treated like dirt. We are not riding greyhound busses here and paying greyhound bus fares. I say hold them accountable. I don't watch the video because it seriously makes me mad still. But I told the guy what I was going to do in terms of complaining and his ego wouldn't let him back down. I warned him this was not over, but he revelled in taking my $150. I lost the battle, but the war was won on Friday. So I know what it is like when they refuse to look at the website. Just wish I knew how Qantas is going to discipline him, if at all.
 
Hi all, not sure if this is the correct forum. I want some feedback and comments about a recent experience of mine.

I am a BA OWE. I recently travelled on Qantas and from the oneworld.com website it states that OW emerald members are allowed an additional piece of checked in baggage, or where a weight allowance is in place an additional 20kg.

I was travelling to London in PE, cabin allowance was 40kg. I had 60kg.

I had an unpleasant situation where I spent 45 minutes arguing with the Qantas check in staff who apparantly rang Qantas international, oneworld and BA and they denied that this was the case. They refused to look at the website on my iphone. Amongst various reasons given one was 'we reciprocate what BA would give our platinum members which is no additional baggage allowance' despite the BA.com website stating the exact opposite. In the end I had to capitulate as I was going to miss my connection back to London and was charged an excess baggage fee.

Comments? Anyone with similar experience? I'm in the mind of writing a letter of complaint to both Qantas and oneworld.

Thanks!

How many bags did you have? I notice it hasn't been mentioned and it is actually pertinent in this case.
 
How many bags did you have? I notice it hasn't been mentioned and it is actually pertinent in this case.

I had 3 pieces to check in. Actually the Qantas international baggage rules are per weight now rather than per item.
 
How many bags did you have? I notice it hasn't been mentioned and it is actually pertinent in this case.

The number of pieces is no longer relevant on non-America routes. It is just a straight weight allowance with no quantity limit.
 
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