You know what really grinds my gears...

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A couple of weeks ago (apologies for the delay, been a bit busy), I was on QF952 CBR-BNE and something happened that made me a bit :evil:.

Parliament was sitting that week but QF952 is a mid-morning flight and was relatively empty (only 1 pax in J to begin with).

I had pre-selected 4A in what was a flight using 734 metal, so convertible J/Y seats in rows 1-5.

These seats have slightly more legroom than the standard Y seats and seem to be more comfortable (more cushioning).

There were people seated in 4A, 4C, 4D, 4F and 5A, 5C, 5D, 5F (middle seats 4B and 5E left vacant/WP shadows).

The first time I noticed the person who would turn out to be a major PITA was in the boarding queue. Unbelievably, Qantas were actually using and enforcing the priority boarding queue. As I joined the J/WP queue to board, I noticed the person in front of me had a boarding pass with 18C and NB status. I thought this person was just trying to test the rules when the FA pointed out the person was in the wrong queue and would have to join the Y/SG/PS/NB/no status queue.

Well, this set off what I considered to be a worse tantrum than my what my niece does when you try and turn off a wiggles dvd.

She started saying that there must be a conspiracy against her at QF as she claimed she was meant to be sitting in J! She was flabbergasted to be sitting in Y and so far down the back of the aircraft.

The FA was trying to calm her when she then said she has selected 5A on internet check in and should be sitting in that seat.

Eventually, the FA managed to get the person to head over to the service desk to try and resolve issues.

I eventually made it down the airbridge on to the aircraft whilst the FA offered apologies at the gate.

Just as I thought everyone was on the aircraft and the door would be shut, on walks tantrum lady. She stops at row 2 and exerts a clearly audible "sigh" and signals for a FA from the front of the aircraft.

Not hiding her displeasure through the use of what would be best described as an 'outdoor voice' she said someone was sitting in 5A where she was "meant to be" and that she wouldn't go down to her seat. This is when the medical excuses (which hadn't been raised earlier) began. She couldn't sit in Y because she had a "heart condition" and was stubbornly refusing to go down to row 18.

After about 2 or 3 minutes of loudly professing her displeasure with QF in front of all passengers, she was lead up to the front galley by the FA.

What happens next is what really made me :evil:.

After about another 2 to 3 minutes, tantrum lady was seated in 3C and proceded to be treated to a restricted J service - no substantial food, just the premium nuts (quite fitting) and wine.

I know J on a 734 isn't anything to write home about, but to whine your way there was an absolute disgraceful act. Sure, all of us would like that little bit of extra room and a marginally better bite to eat (the egg salad roll in Y would have needed an axe to cut in half but that is another issue), but to lower yourself to put on a display more fitting for a toddler to get a convertible J seat on a 734 for a 1 hour flight was embarrassing for all of us.

Now that I have described the incident, it got me thinking as to what could have been done differently to get tantrum woman seated without more incident.

My first solution (whilst may be a little biased bue to my seat allocation and WP status) would have been to move either the occupants of 4A & 4C or 4D & 4F to J seats and seat her by herself in economy.

This would have rewarded loyal customers and kept the trouble maker in Y instead of rewarding her with J.

The other options would obviously been to force her to sit in her allocated seat or boot her off the flight.

What do AFFers think?
 
The cabin supervisor should of insisted that she take her allocated seat for which she was entitled to. If she didn't comply, I would have had ground staff offload her. Simple. The CS took the easy way out IMO and made other guests uncomfortable in the process.
 
I'm surprised she wasn't simply kicked out of the flight for arguing with the FA. Maybe I travel too much in the US...
 
I agree with chooms, here is a clear case of bad behaviour being rewarded. A simple "your seat is 18a, please sit there or leave the plane" is all that is needed. Failure to comply means you will be off loaded, with police assistance if required and your fare forfeited.

I to have travelled on A where that type of behaviour would not be tolerated and the penalty for non-compliance is clear and simple. You're walking...
 
Sounds like someone I used to know ( who is presumably alive and practicing law somewhere)
Perhaps the medical issue was certifiable insanity and it was the safer and faster option to let her sit there to shut her up and then blacklist her.. (If she'd been offloaded you might have had to wait for her luggage to be offloaded too and she wouldn't have cared about that)
A very exhausting way to avoid paying for seat selection though if she plans to try this every time?
(Tho in my ex friends case she seemed to relish confrontation, and it backfired only 50% of the time- got too much for me waiting for the outbursts )
 
I would give her the boot but I feel sorry for Qantas. Perhaps it would cause an unwelcome delay giving her the flick and having to off load her baggage.
 
Agree, option B. Sit in allocated seat or "we can escort you off the aircraft if you would prefer". But feel sorry for the flight attendants that have to put up with this.
 
Would have liked to have seen the CSM step up and show his/her management skills, this is just disgusting, what a selfish self centred cow.
Very disappointed that Qantas gave in to her tantrums making everyone else uncomfortable.

If she had been flying in the US with AA she would have been chucked off the plane..
 
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Have you provided your story to QF via a letter or the feedback form?
 
Have you provided your story to QF via a letter or the feedback form?

No I haven't. I would have thought the CSM would have to file a report. Should I also provide feedback? Would it achieve anything?
 
Maybe I'm off the track here, but I don't police other road users, I try not to judge others too harshly, and I don't worry too much about my fellow passengers. This sounds like a tale of poor behaviour being rewarded, but realistically they have to deal with those around them being unhappy and unfriendly. what sort of life is that?
 
I'm over people trying it on with alleged medical conditions thinking that's they can fast track their way up the front. Normally they shut up when you ask them if they've obtained medical clearance to travel as which point the seriousness of their condition magically improves.

As others have already said, bad behaviour should never be rewarded as it just reinforces the fact that if you whinge loudly enough you'll get your way.

Wonder if the b/pass she had for 18C was OLCI, a piece of cardboard from checkin or from a self service kiosk?

If she was hell bent on sitting in 5C so as to avoid a myocardial infarction then the person who received the onboard upgrade should have been whoever was presently in that seat. I hope the CSM duly made a note in their ipad to short circuit any further installments in this story.

Why is it that rude women & travelling to Canberrra seem to go hand in hand?
 
Sitting in J, yours truly would have gone out of his way to publicly denigrate the DYKWIA. Confrontation and conflict can be highly effective and are a pair some people have to grow.
 
On the surface it sounds as dreadful a display as the OP says it is (and I agree this is the most likely scenario), and I hate to see bad behaviour being rewarded, but from the OP's account there were several minutes where the pax and the cabin crew were out of sight and out of earshot. Maybe some penny magically dropped in that time, unbeknownst to the OP (OK, if on 'restricted food' maybe not, but who knows what was said). I know it sounds unlikely and probably is, but if the OP provides feedback, be sure to allow for the fact that you don't know what was said in that time.
 
No I haven't. I would have thought the CSM would have to file a report. Should I also provide feedback? Would it achieve anything?

It would support the CSM's story and give QF another perspective on the incident. If the pax complained (stranger things have happened) then your independent story would be useful for the CSM.
 
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