A380 OQA mostly repaired - Back in air by end of April?

[Ikara]

I'm given to understand that Nancy-Bird Walton has put on a little extra weight after her stay in Singapore and that she may not be as economical as she once was! That's what happens when you get repaired and not re-engineered.

JB

 

[docjames]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

I'm given to understand that Nancy-Bird Walton has put on a little extra weight after her stay in Singapore and that she may not be as economical as she once was! That's what happens when you get repaired and not re-engineered.

JB

Any ETA on return to service?

 

[MelUser]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

My QF contact tells me that they have decided to refit with a 3 class layout - J, PE and Y so the return will be a bit delayed.

 

[docjames]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

My QF contact tells me that they have decided to refit with a 3 class layout - J, PE and Y so the return will be a bit delayed.

Interesting if true.

 

[DeKa]

Removing F will probably save a bit of weight.

 

[pshepvic]

Removing F will probably save a bit of weight.

Not necessarily - you can fit more J seats in the same space, and with more pax on board it would be heavier.


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[Awesom Andy]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

I'm given to understand that Nancy-Bird Walton has put on a little extra weight after her stay in Singapore

Have to admit, that's usually how it works out for us humans too. :shock:

 

[pshepvic]

Have to admit, that's usually how it works out for us humans too. :shock:

I find it's the trips to the LOTFAP result in that - without going into details, trips to Asia can sometimes result in a loss of weight!


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[Kendall Roy]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

I'm given to understand that Nancy-Bird Walton has put on a little extra weight after her stay in Singapore and that she may not be as economical as she once was! That's what happens when you get repaired and not re-engineered.

JB

I wasn't aware that staples and gaffa tape are that heavy

 

[Mal]

Removing F will probably save a bit of weight.

Have to ask.... what makes you think that? More j seats, prob 1.5 or 2x the number of f seats removed. I expect that an f suite is heavier than a j seat, but not sure it's 1.5x the weight.

 

[andymoo]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

My QF contact tells me that they have decided to refit with a 3 class layout - J, PE and Y so the return will be a bit delayed.

Interesting - but they're apparently not going three class in any of them any more. They are instead refitting the entire fleet to an in between four class layout, so this might be what you're thinking of?

Only issue there is that the new 4 class layout isn't going to be ready until May at the earliest - I seriously hope we see her before May...

 

[Homer]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

Interesting - but they're apparently not going three class in any of them any more. They are instead refitting the entire fleet to an in between four class layout...

Can you elaborate about what you mean by "an in between four class layout"?

 

[andymoo]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

Can you elaborate about what you mean by "an in between four class layout"?

14F/64J/35W/371Y... It's a midway between what they have today (14F/72J/32W/332Y) and what the three class layout would have been (60J/50W/420Y)... Not confirmed as yet, but matches the 484 figure that QF has spoken of.

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[The Rok]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

Would it not make sense to keep even 6 First Class seats on all Int Ops regardless of plane to use as a carrot for frequent flyers?

If somebody spends all their time travelling in J then surely the only thing they can aspire to use their points for is an Fupgrade? (no pun intended)

If you made your First Class cabin the most luxurious experience you can have in a commercial jet then it would make a fantastic customer retention tool.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

If you made your First Class cabin the most luxurious experience you can have in a commercial jet then it would make a fantastic customer retention tool.

Singapore airlines already has that (the most luxurious first class) and they do their best to keep anyone except paid first class OUT of their suites

 

[The Rok]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

Singapore airlines already has that (the most luxurious first class) and they do their best to keep anyone except paid first class OUT of their suites

Yes but Asian Business folks will happily pay lots of money for a first class flight, not so many Australians would. So at least having it as a hook for your QFF members would entice people to stay with QF.

 

[pshepvic]

Yes but Asian Business folks will happily pay lots of money for a first class flight, not so many Australians would. So at least having it as a hook for your QFF members would entice people to stay with QF.

Agree. It makes business sense to also enable people to burn points on something that doesn't cost the airline that much more. A Y to J upgrade is much more costly to QF than a J to F, but a good way for QF to get people to use points.

If there is no F cabin, it cascades down - no-one moving J to F, means less people moving PE/Y to J, and less moving Y to PE. That's a whole heap of points that people will potentially use towards normal awards seats, where the profit isn't as high as an upgrade.

Also, I'm not usually willing to risk sitting in a Y seat if my upgrade doesn't come through, so I will only use points to get to J through a JASA or Classic, but not through a non-guaranteed upgrade process. Whereas I am still willing to pay for J and have a chance at burning some points to get a seat in F. That's win win - Qantas get paid revenue for my J seat, plus the "money" from my points redemption, without a big cost difference. Even if all seats in F were upgrades, they've made a decent profit on them.


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[The Rok]

Agree. It makes business sense to also enable people to burn points on something that doesn't cost the airline that much more. A Y to J upgrade is much more costly to QF than a J to F, but a good way for QF to get people to use points.

If there is no F cabin, it cascades down - no-one moving J to F, means less people moving PE/Y to J, and less moving Y to PE. That's a whole heap of points that people will potentially use towards normal awards seats, where the profit isn't as high as an upgrade.

Also, I'm not usually willing to risk sitting in a Y seat if my upgrade doesn't come through, so I will only use points to get to J through a JASA or Classic, but not through a non-guaranteed upgrade process. Whereas I am still willing to pay for J and have a chance at burning some points to get a seat in F. That's win win - Qantas get paid revenue for my J seat, plus the "money" from my points redemption, without a big cost difference. Even if all seats in F were upgrades, they've made a decent profit on them.


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Exactly my thoughts. What better way to lower your liability of points if you are QF.

I Think this is a foolish move.

 

[cove]

Re: Nancy-Bird Walton

OK lets finish the staple gun workings ,the gaffa tape and the plasticine to plug the holes.....we are ready to roll on this one!

 

[The Rok]

Mate mate mate. No need for all that. QF use Selly's no nails and expanding foam spray. Cures everything.