CBR On Time Performance

[Jack Melon]

I just had a moment, virgin announce this, someone commented on ausbt's facebook post about this saying they are now switching to virgin and now qantas has bad news, qantas travlers will now experience more delays, even if they can cut off 30 mins of there delay time the pilot is prohibited from doing so.

Article here: Qantas pilots told not to minimise delays | News.com.au

 

[nlagalle]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

I just had a moment, virgin announce this, someone commented on ausbt's facebook post about this saying they are now switching to virgin and now qantas has bad news, qantas travlers will now experience more delays, even if they can cut off 30 mins of there delay time the pilot is prohibited from doing so.

Article here: Qantas pilots told not to minimise delays | News.com.au

Jack - FYI Qantas have a higher on time performance than Virgin...

 

[Jack Melon]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

Jack - FYI Qantas have a higher on time performance than Virgin...

For now... virgin is working on it rapidly, now this with qantas is making it better for virgin. But we will have to wait and see the figures! Lets not get off topic now

 

[nlagalle]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

For now... virgin is working on it rapidly, now this with qantas is making it better for virgin. But we will have to wait and see the figures! Lets not get off topic now

Jack - you posted it, and it is the reason you get slapped down by people in other threads. Stop posting that Virgin always does it better than Qantas. It isn't always the case!

FYI my QF flight left PER 30 mins late due to an abnormal headwind delaying the incoming aircraft, however it was the reverse and we landed on time into MEL. Should the pilots have sped up to try and make up time???

 

[markis10]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

Jack - FYI Qantas have a higher on time performance than Virgin...

Not ex CBR in June, with CBR-MEL the only route where QF have better performance, CBR-SYD which is the route in question DJ leave QF for dead at 84.6% versus 80.2%. Dont you love stats quoted with references . Mind you the reverse SYD-CBR QF kill DJ, if you ignore QFLink which are dismal on all the routes regardless of direction.

The bigger picture of all airlines each month across all domestic ops:

 

[Jack Melon]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

Jack - you posted it, and it is the reason you get slapped down by people in other threads. Stop posting that Virgin always does it better than Qantas. It isn't always the case!

FYI my QF flight left PER 30 mins late due to an abnormal highwind delaying the incoming aircraft, however it was the reverse and we landed on time into MEL. Should the pilots have sped up to try and make up time???

I really dont care, and fyi it is called a headwind and a tailwind, so when you flew the aircaft it was in a tailwind so it sped up the aircaft without applying more thrust, it has nothing to do with the fuel cuts, this thing at qantas starts today, not when you travelled.

 

[nlagalle]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

I really dont care, and fyi it is called a headwind and a tailwind, so when you flew the aircaft it was in a tailwind so it sped up the aircaft without applying more thrust, it has nothing to do with the fuel cuts, this thing at qantas starts today, not when you travelled.

Well then don't post stupid things like that! and yes it is called headwinds, i know, I hold a pilots licence! (auto correct gone wrong)

also the article (i have the printed copy here) doesn't state it starts today either. rather it has been there for some time

 

[nlagalle]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

Not ex CBR in June, with CBR-MEL the only route where QF have better performance, CBR-SYD which is the route in question DJ leave QF for dead at 84.6% versus 80.2%. Dont you love stats quoted with references . Mind you the reverse SYD-CBR QF kill DJ, if you ignore QFLink which are dismal on all the routes regardless of direction.

Sorry I didn't go into specific routes, but overall QFLink was better than Virgin.

http://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/14/Files/BITRE OTP Report June 2011.pdf

 

[oz_mark]

I just had a moment, virgin announce this, someone commented on ausbt's facebook post about this saying they are now switching to virgin and now qantas has bad news, qantas travlers will now experience more delays, even if they can cut off 30 mins of there delay time the pilot is prohibited from doing so.

Article here: Qantas pilots told not to minimise delays | News.com.au

Realistically, on domestic routes, I doubt there is much opportunity to make up 30 minutes often.

 

[RB]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

http://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/14/Files/BITRE OTP Report June 2011.pdf

I notice PQQ my home airport continues to have ordinary stats (especially DJ). As I posted a while back, the actual flight times anounced prior to takeoff (both QF & DJ) never seem to eventuate.

 

[munitalP]

Realistically, on domestic routes, I doubt there is much opportunity to make up 30 minutes often.

I guess it depends if you are flying a Simulator...

You can always burn another $25,000 worth of Jet A1 and feel the love on a sim, whereas in real life - you know, actually being in charge of an aircraft, KPI's and OTP, the reality is you can't do it - and the extra spend would come under the scrutiny of any company accountant.

None of us here can calculate how the cost models QF, VA, TT or JR work to suffice to say, being half an hour late would dent the EBIT of a single flight less than catching the half hour up...

my 2c worth

munitalP

 

[medhead]

Wow. A whole conversation is had and I'm still trying to decipher the OP.

Virgin announce "this"? What is this? There is nothing in linked story about virgin. So exactly what is this and how does it relate to the linked story?

Then someone commented on AustBT's facebook post about "this". Is it the same this that virgin announced? Or is it a different this?

Finally, virgin announce some unspecified thing, someone comments on the same thing and then qantas has bad news? What is the relationship? A virgin announcement and a facebook comment are somehow related to qantas now having bad news? Does the bad news have anything to do with "this"? How does "this" make people flying with qantas experience even more delays?

I can't understand any of the OP. It is like a series of random thoughts strung together. Is it just me?

I just had a moment, virgin announce this, someone commented on ausbt's facebook post about this saying they are now switching to virgin and now qantas has bad news, qantas travlers will now experience more delays, even if they can cut off 30 mins of there delay time the pilot is prohibited from doing so.

Article here: Qantas pilots told not to minimise delays | News.com.au

 

[markis10]

This thread is a split thread that arose from DJ announcing their new CBR service levels.

 

[medhead]

This thread is a split thread that arose from DJ announcing their new CBR service levels.

Ah, so, "this" is DJ's city connect. That makes more sense. Thanks.

 

[fjc]

Re: Capital connect services Ex CBR

Sorry I didn't go into specific routes, but overall QFLink was better than Virgin.

Perhaps that's because how QFLink sometimes turn their planes around <LOL>. Feb, I was sitting at DBO, waiting to fly to CFS via SYD and the incoming QF plane was late (due to a hold up at WGA). It seemed that loading commenced as soon as the last pax got off. They counted us on, slammed the door shut and roared off.

Don't think I've ever seen an aircraft turned around so quickly. Connections still missed in SYD, but it certainly wasn't due to QF not trying.

 

[Groundfeeder]

Don't think I've ever seen an aircraft turned around so quickly.

It's not that long back in my regional (jetprop) NSW travel that only No.1 engine was shut down for disembarking/loading and we were away in a very, very short period. Baggage was left on the trolley on the tarmac.

Try doing that in a Crash8-400 with its conveyor loading.

 

[straitman]

I just had a moment, virgin announce this, someone commented on ausbt's facebook post about this saying they are now switching to virgin and now qantas has bad news, qantas travlers will now experience more delays, even if they can cut off 30 mins of there delay time the pilot is prohibited from doing so.

Article here: Qantas pilots told not to minimise delays | News.com.au

I actually think this story is another bit of fluff about nothing.

It is normal policy these days for airlines to strictly monitor, in real time, absolutely everything that occurs from power settings, airspeeds, altitudes, fuel burn and many more things. The only real difference is that they do not publicly state what their policy on what and how each of these things is managed.