Differences between a Global Explorer and xONEx

[simongr]

Hi all

Just a quick question - is there any real/practical difference between a xONEx and a Global explorer?

I just got my itinerary back and am told it is a Global Explorer ticket (in J still).

The itinerary is:

syd-hkg(stop)-dxb-amm-lca(stop)-lhr(stop)-jfk(stop)-mia-atl(stop)-mia-jfk-lax-syd

I have noted that one flight is booked into whY - not sure if that is connected or an availability issue...

S

 

[Dave Noble]

There are differences but if it meets your requirements then doesn't make any odds, the price is the same regardless. Your itinerary would seem to be valid for both . Is one of the domestic US flights on a flight number >3000 ( on American Eagle ) which has 1 class only

Dave

 

[simongr]

Thanks Dave.

The flight is AA133 which is a three class 767 - but it is showing A0 D7 L9 - I assume the TA saw the A0 and booked into L as all the other AA flights are in A...

I am getting that fixed.

S

Given that there are no negative differences are there any positive differences that I could "exploit"?

 

[Dave Noble]

There are non-OW airlines that can be utilised on the Global Explorer; if you had a need, you could choose from other carriers ( e.g. AS is permitted )

TRAVEL ON ANY AA/AY/AS/BA/CX/EI/FJ/GF/IB/IT/JC/JL/JO/KA/LA/LP/MA/MX/NU/QF/RJ/S7/XL/4M

QF CODESHARE SERVICES ON TN-AIR TAHITI NUI/ VN-VIETNAM AIRLINES/SA-SOUTH AFRICAN AIRWAYS AND JQ-JETSTAR.

ADDITIONALLY TRAVEL IS PERMITTED ON THE
FOLLOWING AFFILIATE AIRLINES -
-
ALASKA AIRLINES - HORIZON AIR


So you could use Gulf Air for example for part of travel or come back on a nice daytime flight from HNL rather than overnight from LAX without needing a day with a QF flight operating ( e.g. MIA-DFW-HNL on AA the JQ HNL-SYD )

Also, although there are stopover limitations there seems to be unlimited transfers so can , I believe, do more than 4 sectors per continent just that limited in stopovers

 

[Hawkeye]

A potential downside of the xGLOBx fares is that they only allow a maximum of 4 stopovers (with 34K and 39K products, even less on the smaller tiers) in North America.

Given the xONEx fares allow 6 segments, they are potentially more generous.

Of course many of us maximise segments, with perhaps only one or two stopovers, so may not a great problem.

 

[drron]

The other practical difference at least last year was on a DONE you are allowed only one stopover in continent of origin at either or both ends of the itinerary whereas Glob allowed me SIN-BNE(stop)-DRW(stop)-SYD for an itinerary originating in SYD.

 

[Voyages]

Just a quick question - is there any real/practical difference between a xONEx and a Global explorer?

I had a similar experience. I used the oneworld tool and thought it was a LONE5 booking. This dummy booking was then given to the travel agent.

ADL-SYD-NRT*-SIN-LHR-CPH*-LHR-DXB*-LHR-ORD*-LAX*-MIA-GIG*-SCL*-EZE*-SYD-ADL

*: stopover

The itinerary that I now have says it's a Global Explorer fare. Interestingly it's $300 cheaper than the fare I got from the oneworld booking machine.

 

[Dave Noble]

The other practical difference at least last year was on a DONE you are allowed only one stopover in continent of origin at either or both ends of the itinerary whereas Glob allowed me SIN-BNE(stop)-DRW(stop)-SYD for an itinerary originating in SYD.

Both the Global Explorer and the One World Explorer have the same restrictions on stopover in origin. The xONCEWCn fares still allow 2 stopovers in continent of origin with no reference to direction of travel

 

[simongr]

What is that fare dave and how does it price?

 

[Dave Noble]

What is that fare dave and how does it price?

What is what fare? the xONEWCn seems to be priced same as a xONE3 and xONE4 . For an xONEWC4

A.TRAVEL MUST BE ON THE SERVICES OF AY/BA/CX/
IB/JC/JL/JO/KA/LA/MA/NU/QF/RJ ONLY TRAVELLING VIA
THREE OR FOUR CONTINENT ROUTING SPECIFIED IN
FLIGHT APPLICATION PARAGRAPH /B/. BACKTRACKING
BETWEEN CONTINENTS IS NOT PERMITTED HOWEVER
BACKTRACKING WITHIN A CONTINENT IS PERMITTED.
B.TRAVEL MUST BE A CIRCLE TRIP VIA FOLLOWING
ROUTING -
1. AFRICA-SWP-ASIA-AFRICA VV
2. AFRICA-ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA VV
3. AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-SWP-AFRICA VV
4. SWP-ASIA-AFRICA-SWP VV
5. SWP-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-SWP VV
6. ASIA-SWP-AFRICA-ASIA VV
7. ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-ASIA VV
8. ASIA-EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-SWP-ASIA VV
9. EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-ASIA-AFRICA-EUROPE/MIDDLE
EAST VV
10.EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST-AFRICA-SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/
MIDDLE EAST VV

Otherwise seems fairly similar in rules to a xONEn

 

[docjames]

Thanks Dave.

The flight is AA133 which is a three class 767 - but it is showing A0 D7 L9 - I assume the TA saw the A0 and booked into L as all the other AA flights are in A...

I am getting that fixed.

S

Given that there are no negative differences are there any positive differences that I could "exploit"?

If you move to a 2 class flight, could you not get an "F" seat (and SCs)? Or will that force-book into L?

 

[serfty]

Given that there are no negative differences are there any positive differences that I could "exploit"?

As far as exploitation goes, a DONE3 or DONE4 can be far more beneficial per $ if looking to maximize SC's from travel. You need to buy a DGLOB39 (at much higher cost) to match what can be done with one of them.

If you move to a 2 class flight, could you not get an "F" seat (and SCs)? Or will that force-book into L?

If there is A class available, then it books into First class, otherwise L is needed for "coach" (unless its a 1 class AeAgle when it books into Y).

If looking to Maximize SC's from a DONEx or a DGLOBnn, avoid booking on a 3 class domestic AA flight if you can help it.

Since it's showing A0, you can't even consider AAdvantage eVip/SWP or miles upgrades to First class at this stage. Do you still have any vestiges of EXP remaining?

 

[simongr]

No eVIPs remaining and everyone I lent ones to have also dropped off the eVIP repayment.

I am happy in J - I have about 5 F flights on AA anyway and already and WP...