Qantas to start new route Perth to Jakarta

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B737 equipment from 14 Dec 2026. Going head to head with Batik although probably on alternate days...🤔
 
I believe it’s Qantas ‘requests’ to operate. Virgin will likely get a portion of the capacity so seems unlikely.
 
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B737 equipment from 14 Dec 2026. Going head to head with Batik although probably on alternate days...🤔
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I believe it’s Qantas ‘requests’ to operate. Virgin will likely get a portion of the capacity so seems unlikely.
When you say Virgin will likely get a portion of the capacity.....what does that mean?
 
When you say Virgin will likely get a portion of the capacity.....what does that mean?
Virgin has yet to submit its proposal, id expect this shortly, and its clear they will ask for a similar amount. In prior allocations VA has always waited for QF to file its proposal then submitted right after. They screwed up the last proposal but it was more tag flight related.

So its going to be up to the commission to work out who gets the portion of 5k seats between QF and VA. Now considering Virgin has around 25% of the seats today that QF does to Indonesia, it will be almost impossible for the commission to grant QF the whole lot.

VA will certainly ask for PER-DPS going off its failed application last year. Virgin could ask for WSI-DPS, they would probably get that over Jetstar considering share.

I’d say this will be allocated 50/50 between both groups in the end.
 
When you say Virgin will likely get a portion of the capacity.....what does that mean?
They have applied to IASC for allocation of the available seats according to the expanded bi-lateral with Indonesia. This doesn't mean the IASC will grant them the request.

VA will also likely put in their own proposals and IASC will make a determination.
VA will certainly ask for PER-DPS going off its failed application last year. Virgin could ask for WSI-DPS, they would probably get that over Jetstar considering share.

Personally i think IASC would grant QF the JQ WSI-DPS unless VA demonstrate they're going to start operating from WSI domestically.
 
Personally i think IASC would grant QF the JQ WSI-DPS unless VA demonstrate they're going to start operating from WSI domestically.
It’s an interesting point. The commission didn’t really side with Jetstar in the last application around its argument that it was a LCC and is offering better value, lower fares etc, they made this point quite clear, so not sure they will put the domestic part into it. Virgin screwed itself over by getting lost in how tag flights operate, otherwise they would have got that capacity.

VAs biggest opportunity here is simply lack of share so if they play their cards right they should do ok. They could ask for PER-CGK, and drop it later on, reallocate to DPS if they want also, should the route not work.
 

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