QantasLink Airbus A220 Discussion

[Melburnian1]

Just flew on the 1 week old VH-X4J..., don't love the always delayed last A220 flight of the day.

An accurate comment, with QF1289, the 1930 hours SYD-MEL on four of its last six nights of operation having been 56, 51, 80 and last night about 30 minutes late at gate on arrival. Unfortunately, delays often build during the day. Across all Oz domestic airlines, around 0930-1000 hours is when delays tend to commence even if previous early morning flights were punctual.

 

[encryptededdy]

An accurate comment, with QF1289, the 1930 hours SYD-MEL on four of its last six nights of operation having been 56, 51, 80 and last night about 30 minutes late at gate on arrival

To be fair to Qantas, they offered to move me to an earlier 737 flight to bypass the delay, however I declined since I wanted to ride the A220.

 

[Saab34]

I wonder where they will start to go next year. Alliance appear to have the Embrear contract with Qantas for further two years.

Intra QLD hopefully next up.

 

[markis10]

I wonder where they will start to go next year. Alliance appear to have the Embrear contract with Qantas for further two years.

Not sure they will last two years, contract renegotiations seem to have stalled.

 

[Groundfeeder]

To be fair to Qantas, they offered to move me to an earlier 737 flight to bypass the delay, however I declined since I wanted to ride the A220.

Ditto. When you've got 4A it's got to the equivalent on B738 for me.

 

[Saab34]

Not sure they will last two years, contract renegotiations seem to have stalled.

Reading the report it appears like they would be chasing tens of millions from QF to cover contract cost blowouts. Seems unlikely so close to a contracts end .

I think Alliance will play a part, just not as big. Darwin/Cairns are bases that come to mind that might remain wet lease over a longer period.

 

[AuSammy]

Reading the report it appears like they would be chasing tens of millions from QF to cover contract cost blowouts. Seems unlikely so close to a contracts end .

I think Alliance will play a part, just not as big. Darwin/Cairns are bases that come to mind that might remain wet lease over a longer period.

I thought I read somewhere in recent history Alliance had financial woes and share trading suspended?

 

[markis10]

thought I read somewhere in recent history Alliance had financial woes and share trading suspended?

No real woes as such, they own their planes etc, however the folk who worked out the QF contract took an optimistic view on opex being the same as post covid and the parts shortages blew that out of the water. As a result they are trying to renegotiate the deal. I suspect Qantas could quite believe what they got offered and are unlikely to agree. Alliance was top heavy with accountants, batteries must of gone flat in their calculators for a few years.

 

[Saab34]

They have plenty of cash on hand, and even with reduced earnings shouldn’t have any issues with its current loans having a brief look. They won’t be getting the initial intended return on investment however, and I’d expect the share price to languish a bit.

I can’t see the A220s covering the entire Alliance E190 network. Is some routes out of CNS/DRW/ADL etc that will be a challenging to operate unless QF open more A220 bases which they don’t seem keen on. I think a sub fleet of 10 wet leased E190s might continue on after the contract ends in 2027 in which a whole lot more A220s arrive.

Alliance need to phase out the F100 eventually so that’s likely where the rest of the current QF wet lease aircraft might go.

 

[markis10]

I can’t see the A220s covering the entire Alliance E190 network. Is some routes out of CNS/DRW/ADL etc that will be a challenging to operate unless QF open more A220 bases which they don’t seem keen on. I think a sub fleet of 10 wet leased E190s might continue on after the contract ends in 2027 in which a whole lot more A220s arrive.

The mid life 737’s and Dash 8s will take the place of the leased E190s eventually, old 737s owned in house are cheaper than leased