Qantas' New A321XLR

[Brettmcg]

This difference - four v 16 - seems unwise because if an aircraft fails and another needs to be substituted, QFd/QFi may end up with a different seat configuration.

It complicates matters needlessly when standardisation ought be the goal.

Hardly a 'consistent premium experience' if passengers suddenly get one of the 'four'.

Huh?

They mean 16 out of the additional 20 ordered today. QF already had a firm order for 28 in the OGA/OGB configuration, so you'll have 32 in that config and 16 mid-long-haul config...

 

[justinbrett]

This difference - four v 16 - seems unwise because if an aircraft fails and another needs to be substituted, QFd/QFi may end up with a different seat configuration.

It complicates matters needlessly when standardisation ought be the goal.

Hardly a 'consistent premium experience' if passengers suddenly get one of the 'four'.

Huh? They've already ordered a stack of the denser config.

There is no 4. It's 16 & 32.

 

[Steve994]

This difference - four v 16 - seems unwise because if an aircraft fails and another needs to be substituted, QFd/QFi may end up with a different seat configuration.

It complicates matters needlessly when standardisation ought be the goal.

Hardly a 'consistent premium experience' if passengers suddenly get one of the 'four'.

After these additional aircraft are delivered it won't be four v 16. It will be 32 v 16. Four of the additional 20 orders announced today are the same configuration as the aircraft already on order, and 16 of them have the lay flat seats. Or am I missing something?

 

[oz_mark]

This difference - four v 16 - seems unwise because if an aircraft fails and another needs to be substituted, QFd/QFi may end up with a different seat configuration.

It complicates matters needlessly when standardisation ought be the goal.

Hardly a 'consistent premium experience' if passengers suddenly get one of the 'four'.

You seem to have forgotten about the other 28 already on order. The four will be configured the same as those 28.

 

[mbell1510]

Looking forward to the time when Qantas swaps a lie flat configuration for a recliner layout on Asian routes in the coming years.

 

[Saab34]

Why didn’t they just opt for the 321Neo instead of the XLR if they only intend to operate a bunch on domestic? Hardly needs the extra fuel tanks on those missions.

 

[moa999]

Why didn’t they just opt for the 321Neo instead of the XLR if they only intend to operate a bunch on domestic? Hardly needs the extra fuel tanks on those missions.

See posts #386 and 387

 

[Harrison_133]

The following graphic on JQ's 12 XLRs is floating around. Configuration of 12 Business & 196 Economy. Looks like headrests added in Y and wifi coming too.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

Good news for JQ with the 321XLR business class options.

 

[moa999]

Jetstar 12J 196 Y, 1 front lav, 2 rear lav, door 2 exits
Qantas (1-3) 20 J 180Y, 1 front lav, 2 rear lav, overwing exits
Qantas (4 on) 20 J 177Y, 1 front lav, 3 rear lav (tbc), overwing exits

 

[Saab34]

. Looks like headrests added in Y and wifi coming too.

If they could add these to the normal NEO fleet that would be great. Those headrest less recaro seats are not the greatest.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

I wonder if DPS will become a J class 321XLR JQ destination, at least from some capitals. I believe the demand is there for the JQ business 'premium economy' option.

 

[LionKing]

I wonder if DPS will become a J class 321XLR JQ destination, at least from some capitals. I believe the demand is there for the JQ business 'premium economy' option.

I hope so, in particular the early morning departure to DPS desperately needed to convert to A321XLR, so that at least I can fly Business Class to Bali and change for Hong Kong, Singapore or Malaysia.
Also this might mean flights ex-CNS to Japan may become an A321XLR feature?

 

[Saab34]

I’d say those Japan to Cairns runs are all but destined for this aircraft. Not sure if the increase in premium product on the 787 is suited to a route like CNS-Japan compared to others.

 

[justinbrett]

I’d say those Japan to Cairns runs are all but destined for this aircraft. Not sure if the increase in premium product on the 787 is suited to a route like CNS-Japan compared to others.

It won't be long until the 787s are too old for JQ, and with them giving up some of their longer routes like HNL, I can see them being an exclusively A32X airline. ICN and JP north of TYO are probably the only places they need a widebody, and that's probably not enough to justify a dedicated fleet. Give those routes back to QF or operate via CNS.

 

[Saab34]

Hard to see where the Jetstar International profit pool lies in terms of fleet but I’d say the A321 is a big driver in he numbers.

I would imagine a replacement for the 787-8 would be the -9 but perhaps in smaller numbers likely 9/10. Not sure they would exit long haul widebody just yet, who knows what the market looks like in a decade, each decade seems to a look different!

 

[moa999]

won't be long until the 787s are too old for JQ

Spending big $s on an internal refit and satellite internet.
I'd say they'll still be with JQ in 2035.

 

[justinbrett]

Spending big $s on an internal refit and satellite internet.
I'd say they'll still be with JQ in 2035.

2035 isn’t far away. They only operated their A330s for 7 years so a cabin refresh and wifi installation isn’t going to stop them moving on. Especially if they get moved back to QF like their A330s.

 

[SYD]

20235 isn’t far away.

It’s an Iceage away…If I’m still alive, I might just get to LTP…

 

[elanshin]

I don't think CNS -NRT will be an exclusive 321XLR route. Perhaps during offpeak but during peak they need the capacity. JQ can be so busy to TYO that JQ prices end up being more than QF at times as dumb as that sounds.

CNS-KIX however would be a likely candidate.
I imagine we might see some more routes maybe to BKK or Vietnam.