ALL Accor+ Explorer Membership Discussion

[jase05]

I would say the two month offer is just there to encourage people to signup/renew now knowing that the program changes are coming. Better than having them drop out, and maybe not come back....

Yep, I’d say Accor just trying to milk the last drop.
Would be surprised if they are pretty generous though and plenty will end up with Platinum until the end of 2026 but then all bets will be off and they’ll drop the hammer.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Part of this change may be to align all ALL+ members to a single renewal date of 1 October, hence the 14 months for the price of 12 offers. I think we’ll see similar offers over the course of a year to support this. Makes things a lot simpler in their backend…
1 October - all Explorer memberships renew and given 30 status nights
31 December all ALL status assessed
1 January- all status adjusted.

The IT dept would be trying to have every member have their status assessed on 31 December and then immediately have that applied under new rules. Good for the systems.

The hope for those of us platinum or higher now may be that a more member / customer centric department determines that the resulting loss of goodwill will cost them more than the efficiency savings. That may result in current status being extended to 2026. If that is the case then it would be to 31 December.

Does that mean if I renew now my status will be valid through September 30?

 

[SYD]

Does that mean if I renew now my status will be valid through September 30?

I joined in July and my status was extended until July 26. So presumably any new or renew up until October should work the same?

What happens then - we’ll see.

 

[dairyfloss]

Part of this change may be to align all ALL+ members to a single renewal date of 1 October, hence the 14 months for the price of 12 offers. I think we’ll see similar offers over the course of a year to support this. Makes things a lot simpler in their backend…
1 October - all Explorer memberships renew and given 30 status nights
31 December all ALL status assessed
1 January- all status adjusted.

The IT dept would be trying to have every member have their status assessed on 31 December and then immediately have that applied under new rules. Good for the systems.

The hope for those of us platinum or higher now may be that a more member / customer centric department determines that the resulting loss of goodwill will cost them more than the efficiency savings. That may result in current status being extended to 2026. If that is the case then it would be to 31 December.

I think it’s pretty clear with the announced changes that membership in Accor Plus doesn’t need to align with Accor ALL in any particular way, going forwards. Status will be determined by the overarching ALL program rules of what you have done in the 12 months to December 31st of a given year (incl. up to 30 bonus/free nights from A+), and that’s that.

Sign ups to A+ will continue to run and renew on the same 12 month blocks as they do currently.

Maybe I’m being pessimistic here… but I think they’re trying to cull the numbers of the ‘not so loyal’ elite members from the base, and so I expect there will only be limited exceptions and extensions to elite accounts that haven’t made the cut, come Dec 31st 2025.

The one main caveat to my pessimism… I do think they will most likely honour elite members who have reached or retained Platinum under the pre-October rules before September 30th (even if it was with more than 30 bonus nights) with status maintained through the end of 2026. But this also remains to be seen!

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[dairyfloss]

Does that mean if I renew now my status will be valid through September 30?

I joined in July and my status was extended until July 26. So presumably any new or renew up until October should work the same?

What happens then - we’ll see.

Unfortunately, I don’t think either of you will see your status extended into 2026 unless you have the status nights or status points to secure it. Accor Plus no longer offers any kind of status extensions. The only benefit to status from A+ is the 30 bonus nights which are credited at the start of your new membership year

 

[kangarooflyer88]

Unfortunately, I don’t think either of you will see your status extended into 2026 unless you have the status nights or status points to secure it. Accor Plus no longer offers any kind of status extensions. The only benefit to status from A+ is the 30 bonus nights which are credited at the start of your new membership year

Let me clarify. If I were to renew my Accor+ right now on August 27th ahead of its expiry at the end of the month when would my membership be valid to? Would it just be 12 months (I.e. August 31, 2026) or would it be to October 31,2026 assuming they honour the 14 month bit? Or would it make sense to wait until September so I can re-join Accor+ as a new member and get it until November 30, 2026?

As for status nights as I mentioned earlier that should be taken care of since by the end of this week I’ll be at 29 nights of pure hotel night stays with no Accor membership bonus nights earned this year. So supposing I can get the 30 bonus points from Accor+ from renewal then I would just need to stay one night at an Accor property here in Europe and that’s it!

-RooFlyer88

 

[SYD]

Unfortunately, I don’t think either of you will see your status extended into 2026 unless you have the status nights or status points to secure it. Accor Plus no longer offers any kind of status extensions. The only benefit to status from A+ is the 30 bonus nights which are credited at the start of your new membership year

No, my status was extended until July 2026 when I signed up last month (just before the announcement).

The question is what happens from now until the transition date? Should be obvious if anyone has signed up/renewed recently?

 

[dairyfloss]

No, my status was extended until July 2026 when I signed up last month (just before the announcement).

The question is what happens from now until the transition date? Should be obvious if anyone has signed up/renewed recently?

I do hope for your sake that the A+ status date sticks, but without status from nights or points in 2025, there’s no guarantee it will… unless you were Gold? Gold is fine as all A+ are expected to get the nights to cover that each year regardless.

I think January is going to be busy for the A+ customer service team!

 

[Flyfrequently]

Received this email yesterday @SYD @dairyfloss


I had actually turned off auto renewal

 

[SYD]

I do hope for your sake that the A+ status date sticks, but without status from nights or points in 2025, there’s no guarantee it will… unless you were Gold? Gold is fine as all A+ are expected to get the nights to cover that each year regardless.

I think January is going to be busy for the A+ customer service team!

Yes, already Gold and I will have enough nights soon for Gold thru Dec 2026 anyway.

But I can’t imagine them unwinding extensions of > Gold after 1 Oct.

Renewing or signing up on or after 01 Oct is different.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Received this email yesterday @SYD @dairyfloss
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I had actually turned off auto renewal

Can I please ask what is the subject heading of that email?

My ‘renewal’ date is early September and I never got that email/offer

Yes, already Gold and I will have enough nights soon for Gold thru Dec 2026 anyway.

But I can’t imagine them unwinding extensions of > Gold after 1 Oct.

Renewing or signing up on or after 01 Oct is different.

My understanding is that Accor Plus gives 30 nights, so hence automatically Gold for ALL

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Let me clarify. If I were to renew my Accor+ right now on August 27th ahead of its expiry at the end of the month when would my membership be valid to? Would it just be 12 months (I.e. August 31, 2026) or would it be to October 31,2026 assuming they honour the 14 month bit? Or would it make sense to wait until September so I can re-join Accor+ as a new member and get it until November 30, 2026?

As for status nights as I mentioned earlier that should be taken care of since by the end of this week I’ll be at 29 nights of pure hotel night stays with no Accor membership bonus nights earned this year. So supposing I can get the 30 bonus points from Accor+ from renewal then I would just need to stay one night at an Accor property here in Europe and that’s it!

-RooFlyer88

In your boat, I’d re-join in September and try to claim the 14 months.

I assume you (like me) don’t have an email saying that renewal gives 14 months.

The only wrinkle I see is they might claim it’s a renewal/continuous membership of sorts.

Last year I was an August membership and on a callback in September ‘renewed’ or signed up again. - I was considered a renewal/they still consider me continuous membership even with the few days of non-membership and I have a September renewal now.

edit: I would add that the callback gave some bonuses, including bonus points, so they might do something similar still

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I'm interested in when the nights land for August renewals and the potential ramifications for September renewals.

If the nights are credited on the first of the next month, then that's another potential hurdle to overcome.

Some options for a 10-15 nighter with Platinum expiring 2025:
- join Accor China for 50 nights before 30/9;
- join Accor China for 20 nights before 30/9 + Accor Plus (to get 30 nights) and hope the Accor Pus nights credit by 30/9 (and not 1/10);
- renew Accor Plus by 30/9 and hope the previous system automatically showing extension to 30/9/2026 still holds.

 

[aikman]

But I can’t imagine them unwinding extensions of > Gold after 1 Oct.

I hope you are right.

It will be easy for them to say that since you have been upgraded to Accor+ Explorer then the new rules now apply to you.

Edit: The lack of formal communications addressing this issue is interesting. Is it an an oversight, is it because they do in fact intend to apply the new rules, or is it because they don't want people rushing prior to 1 Oct to stack bonus nights?

 

[Cutty]

Do people think if 60 nights are obtained prior to October 1st, with any combination of actual nights stays plus bonus nights, that Platinum will be extended to the end of 2026? I could try to ensure I reach 60 nights prior to October 1st with a few more stays by that date, plus bonus nights from another program. And this would not require the 30 bonus nights from the A+ renewal.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Do people think if 60 nights are obtained prior to October 1st, with any combination of actual nights stays plus bonus nights, that Platinum will be extended to the end of 2026? I could try to ensure I reach 60 nights prior to October 1st with a few more stays by that date, plus bonus nights from another program. And this would not require the 30 bonus nights from the A+ renewal.

From what I've read, the suspicion/views of various chat groups is that if you got 60 nights by 30/9, you will be a Platinum to end of 2026 - it should be regarded as obtaining/retaining Platinum in the 2025 calendar year.

Is there some other concern you have that I'm missing?
What non-AccorPlus program are you getting nights from? Is your AccorPlus renewal month after September?

 

[Flyfrequently]

In your boat, I’d re-join in September and try to claim the 14 months.

I assume you (like me) don’t have an email saying that renewal gives 14 months.

The only wrinkle I see is they might claim it’s a renewal/continuous membership of sorts.

Last year I was an August membership and on a callback in September ‘renewed’ or signed up again. - I was considered a renewal/they still consider me continuous membership even with the few days of non-membership and I have a September renewal now.

edit: I would add that the callback gave some bonuses, including bonus points, so they might do something similar still

Email subject heading @HappyFlyerFamily

 

[dairyfloss]

Let me clarify. If I were to renew my Accor+ right now on August 27th ahead of its expiry at the end of the month when would my membership be valid to? Would it just be 12 months (I.e. August 31, 2026) or would it be to October 31,2026 assuming they honour the 14 month bit? Or would it make sense to wait until September so I can re-join Accor+ as a new member and get it until November 30, 2026?

As for status nights as I mentioned earlier that should be taken care of since by the end of this week I’ll be at 29 nights of pure hotel night stays with no Accor membership bonus nights earned this year. So supposing I can get the 30 bonus points from Accor+ from renewal then I would just need to stay one night at an Accor property here in Europe and that’s it!

-RooFlyer88

Ok - you’d asked about your status into 2026, but you’re really just talking about the A+ membership period, right? If you renew now, it would take your A+ membership out to the end of August 2026. If they are offering the 14 months for 12 on renewals (are they? [edit: just seen @Flyfrequently's screen grabs above and clearly they are!]), then that would take it to October, with your member year then starting in November, I assume.

Assuming you have your Platinum status secured until at least the end of 2025 from your activity in 2024, I’d just leave the A+ renewal or sign up until you have a need to make a new booking, or to use the dining benefit in an APAC property. With status extensions gone, I can't think of another reason why you'd want to sign up earlier, even if it was for the 2 free months offer (edit: after seeing @Flyfrequently's e-mail; maybe the points are worth it for you?).

Yes, already Gold and I will have enough nights soon for Gold thru Dec 2026 anyway.

But I can’t imagine them unwinding extensions of > Gold after 1 Oct.

Renewing or signing up on or after 01 Oct is different.

I don't think there's anything to be concerned with at the ALL Gold level - I had Platinum in mind. I reckon they might just credit / top-up the nights you need (or even the full 30 - as only 30 count for status calculation anyway!) so you re-qualify Gold after Oct 1st and will hold it for all of 2026. You’ll then retain ALL Gold [at a minimum] so long as you continue to renew A+, thanks to that 30 nights they credit

 

[dairyfloss]

Do people think if 60 nights are obtained prior to October 1st, with any combination of actual nights stays plus bonus nights, that Platinum will be extended to the end of 2026? I could try to ensure I reach 60 nights prior to October 1st with a few more stays by that date, plus bonus nights from another program. And this would not require the 30 bonus nights from the A+ renewal.

So long as they don't re-evaluate status in January based on the full year 2025, you would be ok - and that's what I'm assuming they will do (Assuming is pretty much all we can do on this point).

I think there'd be a riot if people had already secured/retained status on nights credited to their account between Jan 1 & Sep 30 and then they tried to claw it back. But after Oct 1, you are at the mercy of the new program terms. Just be cautious of the likely fact that if you miss getting all the nights you need credited by Sep 30, then you would be restricted to a maximum of 30 bonus nights counting towards Platinum, and so you'd need another 30 stay nights by Dec 31 to get there.

 

[Cutty]

From what I've read, the suspicion/views of various chat groups is that if you got 60 nights by 30/9, you will be a Platinum to end of 2026 - it should be regarded as obtaining/retaining Platinum in the 2025 calendar year.

Is there some other concern you have that I'm missing?
What non-AccorPlus program are you getting nights from? Is your AccorPlus renewal month after September?

Concern or confusion with the change as my membership renewal is Sept 30, the same as the rollover day so I may get lost in the wash with the conversion. Before the program change, I was guaranteed Platinum to the end of my membership year 2026, regardless of nights. But now it feels that has changed and I can no longer bank on the extension.
I am pretty confident I can achieve the 60 nights by end September without relying on the 30 from A+. But this 60 will be made up of some bonus nights from Accor 2.0 (China). I signed up to China's program as I am looking at work related bookings for Q1 2026, so it was a legitamate subscription to make use of points and status outside APAC. So if I need to, I can purchase a few more nights from the China program to tick me over 60 nights by end September. This feels like it is adequate.