Discussion on Ukraine situation 2022

[Flashback]

White House and EU nations announce expulsion of 'selected Russian banks' from SWIFT

The White House, along with the European Commission, France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel certain Russian banks from SWIFT, the high-security network that connects thousands of financial institutions around the world, pledging to...

edition.cnn.com

Hello move to crypto, nice to see you

 

[tgh]

Just as well I am sitting on the remains a large, stiff g&t.. or I might slash my wrists… geeeez I miss hawkeye

 

[drron]

It is times like this that twitter can be useful.i follow these fellows.
The Kyiv Independent


@KyivIndependent

 

[jase05]

Sounds like this time its been confirmed that the AN225 has been destroyed

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Interesting comment:

UK foreign secretary supports Brits if they want to fight in Ukraine​

Liz Truss was speaking to Sophie Raworth on the BBC this morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60542877

So OK by UK Government if a Brit travels to Ukraine to be part of a pseudo-international volunteer force to help defend Ukraine.

 

[antycbr]

Interesting comment:

UK foreign secretary supports Brits if they want to fight in Ukraine​

Liz Truss was speaking to Sophie Raworth on the BBC this morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-60542877

So OK by UK Government if a Brit travels to Ukraine to be part of a pseudo-international volunteer force to help defend Ukraine.

Speculation we may allow the same thing too, will need a legislation change tho.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Speculation we may allow the same thing too, will need a legislation change tho.

No thanks, this is a nasty precedent.

 

[drron]

From the Kiev Independent -

During a phone call with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed that the Ukrainian delegation would meet with the Russian delegation without preconditions on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border, near the Pripyat River.

Just after this announcement Putin announced the nuclear option.

 

[jrfsp]

Of real concern in the EU is the reliance on Russian gas, 40% of EU gas and 25% of oil comes from Russia.

If the taps get turned off there is a real possibility of a energy crisis crippling the EU.

Europe’s gas prices soar 62% as crisis puts fuel supply at risk

Russia’s attacks on Ukraine threaten to exacerbate the continent’s energy-supply crunch.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[VPS]

I'm seeing lots of things like this - go Ukraine

 

[Jenya]

at Antonov International Airport (GML) as a result of a Russian air attack, the An-225 Mriya, which was standing in the hangar, was burned - the largest and most lifting aircraft in history, which exists in a single copy. The mayor of the city of Bucha Anatoly Fedoruk told Radio Liberty about this.

 

[Flashback]

Of real concern in the EU is the reliance on Russian gas, 40% of EU gas and 25% of oil comes from Russia.

If the taps get turned off there is a real possibility of a energy crisis crippling the EU.

Europe’s gas prices soar 62% as crisis puts fuel supply at risk

Russia’s attacks on Ukraine threaten to exacerbate the continent’s energy-supply crunch.

www.aljazeera.com

Although %'s may seem small, it will affect prices globally. That's because these commodities are traded on a global basis and supply will also then need to shift from other areas etc. Fun and games.

 

[drron]

Well the fact that Ukraine is still surviving is a real loss of face for the Russians.
The Ukraine President rubbing it in.

️Zelensky: “Already 4,500 Russian soldiers have been killed. Why did you all come here?

Drop your weapons and leave, don’t trust your commanders, don’t trust your propagandists, just save your lives - leave.”

As well the ruble has fallen 40% against the US dollar.
The Russian Central bank has lifted the borrowing rate from 9.5% to 20%.

Must be increasing pressure on Putin at home.

 

[tgh]

increasing pressure on Putin

A cornered megalomaniac might do anything in an attempt to save face… tense times

 

[drron]

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

If the peace talks go ahead, I wonder what would be discussed.

Russia; I want Ukraine to do X Y and Z for me withdrawing.

Ukraine: You are "losing" (not gaining politically) while you are in Ukraine.

 

[burmans]

Of real concern in the EU is the reliance on Russian gas, 40% of EU gas and 25% of oil comes from Russia.

If the taps get turned off there is a real possibility of a energy crisis crippling the EU.

Europe’s gas prices soar 62% as crisis puts fuel supply at risk

Russia’s attacks on Ukraine threaten to exacerbate the continent’s energy-supply crunch.

www.aljazeera.com

It’s an interesting confluence of interests but this may be the biggest help to the push towards renewables out there, cheaper energy, help the planet and up yours to Putin all in one, Win, win, win.

 

[ketsuzei]

It’s an interesting confluence of interests but this may be the biggest help to the push towards renewables out there, cheaper energy, help the planet and up yours to Putin all in one, Win, win, win.

Awesome. Get that all done in time to keep everyone alive and you'll make a fortune.

 

[Must...Fly!]

If the peace talks go ahead, I wonder what would be discussed.

Russia; I want Ukraine to do X Y and Z for me withdrawing.

Ukraine: You are "losing" (not gaining politically) while you are in Ukraine.

Though you have to be careful as most analysts think at best half the forces on the border of Ukraine have actually entered the territory.

In any case there is clearly little good faith in the negotiations as Kharkov is currently being slammed by rockets.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Though you have to be careful as most analysts think at best half the forces on the border of Ukraine have actually entered the territory.

In any case there is clearly little good faith in the negotiations as Kharkov is currently being slammed by rockets.

I read an article saying 2/3 of the original "allocation".

Given I recall 190k Russian troops on the border before this began - that would mean about 120k Russian troops in Ukraine.

I think there was reports of about 200k Ukraine troops (active personnel) but then add all the reserves and males of suitable age not allowed to leave Ukraine, some of them would pick up arms to fight.