Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic update:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1423409651895263238

I was fearing a lot more than 6 cases given that there were 3 cases infectious for about a week.

Still the "official" numbers tomorrow will be crucial as a lot more of the contacts within second ring cases should have been in the main tested by then.

The doubt unfortunately is going to linger as we seem to be back in a demographic that is reluctant to get tested and/or cease working when symptomatic.

 

[drron]

It is quite wrong to say that everyone over 50 in NSW or Greater Sydney have had time to be vaccinated.
Total doses of vaccine given in NSW up to the end of 3/8 = 4137863

Vaccination - COVID-19 vaccination in NSW

www.health.nsw.gov.au

Total population over 60 in NSW 1668271.Over 50 2640946.
Population 50-59 972725.

HealthStats NSW Population by age and year

www.healthstats.nsw.gov.au

So not enough vaccine doses given to even fully vaccinate just over 70% of all over 50 even if none was given to those in 1a or 1b.

 

[TonyHancock]

I'm not saying it is a logical response but both yourself and @Pushka talk about the vaccine component only and conveniently leave out the predicament UK and Europe found themselves in with COVID as if they are unrelated, and they're not.

Not sure I am "conveniently" leaving anything out, I don't believe any govt has done particularly well, and given the circumstances I have some sympathy in fact. What I am struggling to understand is a strategy of "zero covid" yet no apparent urgency to pursue a vaccination strategy.

Given I am effectively barred from getting to my home, and should I find a route, banned from leaving again I am not sure I understand the failure to deliver vaccination and utterly bewildered by the advice on AstraZeneca which appears to vary even by state in at least one case.

 

[Pushka]

Not that much, really. People weren't screaming for vaccines until Sydney lost control of the situation. All of the praise for what was effectively a roll of the dice opening up in UK start with "if you ignore the first year of the pandemic they have done brilliantly". Well, the first year is what drove them to it. You'd be getting right in line if 130K people had died and not 800.

The hesitancy was because at one point, there were no COVID deaths in Australia for a long time. So you have press reporting on AZ clotting and no deaths from COVID at all and that tips the scales in people's mind.

I'm not saying it is a logical response but both yourself and @Pushka talk about the vaccine component only and conveniently leave out the predicament UK and Europe found themselves in with COVID as if they are unrelated, and they're not.

If we want to ask what happened to questions... What happened to Singapore moving to living with it as an endemic, what happened to Israel being the envy of the world. Not at all negative towards the idea of mass innoculation, but we keep being told we're at the cough end of the world for vaccination and missing out and yet it seems those who rush to pronouncements have hit a few snags upon the way that we can afford to learn from.

Of course they are related so why didn't we see what was in the horizon and send that message? Why? The messaging from the politicians was that we were safe in Australia but anyone with a shred of common sense knew we were only as safe as the weakest link which was mitigated somewhat by becoming an isolate island again. It was only a matter of time that this situation would break and that the virus would find its way here so why wait until that moment to ramp up the vaccination process? It goes against all the current principles of vaccination - you vaccinate before an epidemic (polio, mumps, measles, whooping cough etc) and not when it actually hits.

In Australia the messaging needed to portray a sense of emergency - Winter is Coming - because we were not seeing rampant covid here so it wasn't obvious. The opposite happened.

 

[bcworld]

Rumours about plan for Yr12 in Sydney

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1423427216403173380

 

[lovetravellingoz]

ABC News​

COVID case recorded at school in Melbourne's west​

Heathdale Christian College, in Melbourne's west, has told parents a confirmed case of COVID-19 has been recorded at the school.​

The school said a child in year 6 at the school's Werribee campus had tested positive and the campus is closed until further notice.​

No kinder or authorised worker programs are being allowed onsite.​

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The school has also closed its kinder and authorised worker programs at its Melton campus.​

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The school said any students who was at either campus on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday this week must get tested and isolate.​

Students and teachers from years 5 and 6 at the school must quarantine for 14 days.​

Melton being geographically away from the previously recently reported cases.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Last night 2 flights and Melbourne Airport were added as exposure sites. Seemingly a person travelling from Sydney to Launceston.

At the Vic Presser yesterday it was indicated that a person who had done HQ in NSW may have tested positive post quarantine and be linked to the warehouse worker.

These exposures may or may not be linked to that. I do not know if the flights are the same person, or two separate people, bit it would look to be the same person.

However as the flights are Tier one whomever the passenger was they were in their infectious period on both flights.

 

[33kft]

Of course they are related so why didn't we see what was in the horizon and send that message? Why?

Because we weren't nearly as desperate a situation as Europe was. The formula from a money, time, risk, etc perspective was always wildly different to the UK's. You can see that in the fact that many of the countries that were not hit hard like us (New Zealand, Vietnam, etc) have lower rates than countries who were hit harder (US, UK, Canada)

Given I am effectively barred from getting to my home, and should I find a route, banned from leaving again I am not sure I understand the failure to deliver vaccination

As much as I'd love Australia being vaccinated to result in an immediate resumption of international travel, the fact that highly vaccinated countries both haven't thrown open their borders nor do they have special travel privileges yet, at least not beyond the individual themselves being vaccinated. A lot of people empathise with you and wish there was a silver bullet but if what you're saying was true we'd see a wholesale resumption of International travel with Australia being left out, and that's not what is happening right now.

What we really stand to gain at the moment from wider vaccination is a reduction in these lockdowns and impact to business and travel and a return to normality for Sydney, and people are getting sick of the current situation and getting it done. Our first shot percentage of 43% for 16+ isn't great but it's not terrible, either.

 

[bcworld]

At the Vic Presser yesterday it was indicated that a person who had done HQ in NSW may have tested positive post quarantine and be linked to the warehouse worker.

I am losing track of what happened when but either yesterday or the day before the ABC had a story in their COVID feed about investigation of a possible HQ breach in Sydney. With everything else going on not sure it made it into this thread.

 

[nutwood]

Last night 2 flights and Melbourne Airport were added as exposure sites. Seemingly a person travelling from Sydney to Launceston.

At the Vic Presser yesterday it was indicated that a person who had done HQ in NSW may have tested positive post quarantine and be linked to the warehouse worker.

These exposures may or may not be linked to that. I do not know if the flights are the same person, or two separate people, bit it would look to be the same person.

However as the flights are Tier one whomever the passenger was they were in their infectious period on both flights.

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This is the same person who was discussed a few pages back as arriving in Tasmania on the 2nd and leaving on the 4th. Personally, I think there's a few unanswered questions there.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

QLD PRESSER: 10 new cases in Qld and all are household contacts.

ABC news: Queensland recorded 10 new COVID cases, all linked to cluster​

"We have 10 new cases of COVID-19 in the last 24 hour period, they are all locally acquired and are all household contact that can be linked to the Indooroopilly Delta cluster," Deputy Premier Steven Miles said.​

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"Five cases are household contact of Ironside state school cases, three are household contacts of Indooroopilly State High School, two are household contacts of Brisbane boys Grammar School cases, eight were not infectious in the community at all.​

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"Two were infectious in the community for one day and that was during the Southeast Queensland down period. That brings to 89 the total number of cases in the Indooroopilly Delta cluster."​

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I am losing track of what happened when but either yesterday or the day before the ABC had a story in their COVID feed about investigation of a possible HQ breach in Sydney. With everything else going on not sure it made it into this thread.

Yes that is what I was referring to (Person possibly testing positive post NSW HQ). Note that at the time though it was emphasised that it was only a possible link and that more investigation was required.

 

[bcworld]

Yes that is what I was referring to (Person possibly testing positive post NSW HQ). Note that at the time though it was emphasised that it was only a possible link and that more investigation was required.

Yes but I'm not talking about Daniel Andrews' statement yesterday, I'm talking about something that pre-dated that, probably the day before.

 

[TonyHancock]

Because we weren't nearly as desperate a situation as Europe was. The formula from a money, time, risk, etc perspective was always wildly different to the UK's. You can see that in the fact that many of the countries that were not hit hard like us (New Zealand, Vietnam, etc) have lower rates than countries who were hit harder (US, UK, Canada)

As much as I'd love Australia being vaccinated to result in an immediate resumption of international travel, the fact that highly vaccinated countries both haven't thrown open their borders nor do they have special travel privileges yet, at least not beyond the individual themselves being vaccinated. A lot of people empathise with you and wish there was a silver bullet but if what you're saying was true we'd see a wholesale resumption of International travel with Australia being left out, and that's not what is happening right now.

What we really stand to gain at the moment from wider vaccination is a reduction in these lockdowns and impact to business and travel and a return to normality for Sydney, and people are getting sick of the current situation and getting it done. Our first shot percentage of 43% for 16+ isn't great but it's not terrible, either.

As I write this I sit in a hotel in the USA, having previously been in Mexico - I did not have to quarantine on arrival in the USA, nor did I have to show proof of vaccination, just a negative test. I did not have to quarantine in Mexico either or show proof of vaccination or show a negative test. I will fly to the UK in September where once again I will not have to quarantine - this time because I have been vaccinated twice. The US is now muttering about allowing the double vaccinated to enter. I will be double vaccinated with Moderna in just over three weeks so am hoping this will help me in the US. (I am already vaccinated with AstraZeneca.)

I accept travel is far from perfect but I think you may have spent too much time absorbing some sort of government propaganda, I have seen lockdowns have this affect elsewhere.

Vaccination is the only current route out of this for the world, but when a country has a strategy of "zero covid" then the lack of urgency in vaccination is just negligent. If the delta variant does not breakthrough then the next one, or the next one will.

 

[Seat0B]

Shout out to all the pathologist staff doing testing on record numbers of COVID swabs all around the East Coast. Thank you.

 

[MooTime]

People in Aus had no urgency to get vaccinated months ago as we had covid zero & were told how well Aus has done blah blah.

No matter what the Gov said previously or is saying now ppl don't like gov & don't believe their ever changing story regarding vac risks etc.

People have generally made up their mind, 20% are completely done, another 20%+ are on the way with 1st jab. We are moving forward, not stalling (yet).

We just have to put all & every ounce of energy into getting the jab into as many arms as possible, ignore the anti-dopes, tell positives stories in the media & everywhere on what we can do with our lives in 2022, that's what is so bloody crucial, no lockdowns, all to visit family up the road, interstate & O/S without hinderance. Well O/S will have it's tid bits.

Leave the past 18months of gov actions to when this becomes an endemic, must focus on where we need to go in next 6 months.

 

[jakeseven7]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1423414322957471749

Heard it here on AFF first Thankfully they didn’t work on the wards. Few medical staff are off being tested though.

 

[Lynda2475]

All three of the “new” cases in Melbourne work as “essential workers” (education, medical, warehousing) so aside from whether or not they broke other rules, they would not have been breaking the lockdown by going to work.

Which is also the situation for a huge number of the cases in South West and Western Sydney.

 

[bcworld]

NSW: 291 cases. Expected to go higher in 'next few days'.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1423449945957298178

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1423449947513384965

 

[lovetravellingoz]

All three of the “new” cases in Melbourne work as “essential workers” (education, medical, warehousing) so aside from whether or not they broke other rules, they would not have been breaking the lockdown by going to work.

Though there was not a lockdown in effect for these cases during their infectious periods..