Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[jase05]

Hopefully they hold their nerve and we don’t see another lockdown in Melbourne

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[dajop]

Hopefully they hold their nerve and we don’t see another lockdown in Melbourne

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Hopefully. This is the first real test of the Victorian new and improved contact tracing, as is the first cases to appear in the NW suburbs since the second wave. (noting even those towards the end of the second wave did not go near the NW suburbs). Hope they cope with it as efficiently as they did with the Black Rock cluster (which IIRC got to about 25 cases)., but in a very different area demographically.

But also let's not forget the Herald Sun's business model (shock sells) and position on the political spectrum, they will always paint a doom and gloom picture.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Hopefully. This is the first real test of the Victorian new and improved contact tracing, as is the first cases to appear in the NW suburbs since the second wave. (noting even those towards the end of the second wave did not go near the NW suburbs). Hope they cope with it as efficiently as they did with the Black Rock cluster (which IIRC got to about 25 cases)., but in a very different area demographically.

But also let's not forget the Herald Sun's business model (shock sells) and position on the political spectrum, they will always paint a doom and gloom picture.

The circumstances are at present though that this is not rampant community spread.

It is three HQ cases who have spread it to others and in turn their close compacts which will happen.

With the many isolating we should expect that some cases are likely what that if we continue two rings that all will be contained.

 

[dajop]

The circumstances are at present though that this is not rampant community spread.

Agreed, but it is not in the commercial interests of the Herald Sun to offer a balanced, measured reporting of what is happening.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Hopefully they hold their nerve and we don’t see another lockdown in Melbourne

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Herald Sun like to stoke the fire

But you can forget a lockdown while the tennis is on

 

[Must...Fly!]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359858045526761473

I hope none of the members here stopped in to order a take away coffee...

Though I am slightly confused at how Brunetti is a tier 1 venue but the terminal itself (given how open it is) isn't a tier 2.

 

[jase05]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359858045526761473

I hope none of the members here stopped in to order a take away coffee...

Though I am slightly confused at how Brunetti is a tier 1 venue but the terminal itself (given how open it is) isn't a tier 2.

So judging by those times I’m assuming one of the cases worked at the cafe?
Just need to back the tracers in and let them get to work

 

[jase05]

We all were called into a meeting about an hour ago to inform us the SA border fatality was one of our subbies from the road division. Ploughed into a chemical truck which exploded on impact and incinerated the driver and the vehicle. I only met him a few times in my dealings but the lads at the road depot know him very well and are struggling

 

[Pushka]

We all were called into a meeting about an hour ago to inform us the SA border fatality was one of our subbies from the road division. Ploughed into a chemical truck which exploded on impact and incinerated the driver and the vehicle. I only met him a few times in my dealings but the lads at the road depot know him very well and are struggling

Best wishes for you and your work mates.

 

[Must...Fly!]

We all were called into a meeting about an hour ago to inform us the SA border fatality was one of our subbies from the road division. Ploughed into a chemical truck which exploded on impact and incinerated the driver and the vehicle. I only met him a few times in my dealings but the lads at the road depot know him very well and are struggling

Very very sad. Thoughts with his family and colleagues, what a terrible accident. Hopefully the commissioners enquiry announced by SA police ensures this scenario never happens again

 

[jakeseven7]

We all were called into a meeting about an hour ago to inform us the SA border fatality was one of our subbies from the road division. Ploughed into a chemical truck which exploded on impact and incinerated the driver and the vehicle. I only met him a few times in my dealings but the lads at the road depot know him very well and are struggling

Horrific news and deepest sympathies.

I hope that the SA authorities who made this decision are held to account for their actions that lead to this tragedy.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1359858045526761473

I hope none of the members here stopped in to order a take away coffee...

Though I am slightly confused at how Brunetti is a tier 1 venue but the terminal itself (given how open it is) isn't a tier 2.

Not that I disagree that it may be prudent to have made the Terminal Tier 2 they may not have due to possibly:

• The Terminal is a zone of mandatory mask wearing - except that people at a location such as the cafe would remove there mask to eat or drink.
• The case may not have a high viral load
• Transmission over a distance is rare, except in cases like the Holiday Inn where a nebuliser is involved.
• Note knowing exactly where the cafe is there may not bea gathering are next to it. ie just passing foot traffic.

 

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[jakeseven7]

Incredible testing numbers again in VIC.

Given all the people who have been tested and are isolating and the apparent 'incredible transmissibility' of this mutant, I am still a little surprised it has resulted in so few cases so far....?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

VIC

Genomic testing confirmed that the first six cases in the outbreak had the UK variant, and authorities had a "working assumption" that all cases associated with the Holiday Inn cluster were the same.

There are now 13 cases linked to the Holiday Inn Melbourne Airport hotel, and hundreds of people have been considered close contacts.

Five of those cases were announced by the Victorian Department of Health yesterday, and included four household primary close contacts of previous cases.

The department added Brunetti cafe, at Melbourne Airport's Terminal 4, to its list of Tier 1 exposure sites late last night.

Anyone who visited the cafe between 4:45am and 1:15pm on Tuesday has been asked to get tested and remain isolated for 14 days

Holiday Inn COVID cluster grows to 13 as Melbourne Airport cafe listed as exposure site

Anyone who visited a cafe at Melbourne's airport during a seven-and-a-half-hour period on Tuesday is urged to get tested and isolate for 14 days, as Victorian authorities try to tackle a growing outbreak linked to a quarantine hotel.

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[Must...Fly!]

Not that I disagree that it may be prudent to have made the Terminal Tier 2 they may not have due to possibly:

• The Terminal is a zone of mandatory mask wearing - except that people at a location such as the cafe would remove there mask to eat or drink.
• The case may not have a high viral load
• Transmission over a distance is rare, except in cases like the Holiday Inn where a nebuliser is involved.
• Note knowing exactly where the cafe is there may not bea gathering are next to it. ie just passing foot traffic.

Agree with your list. My curiosity was mainly because the shopping centre at Sunbury was designated a Tier 2 exposure site.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Incredible testing numbers again in VIC.

Given all the people who have been tested and are isolating and the apparent 'incredible transmissibility' of this mutant, I am still a little surprised it has resulted in so few cases so far....?

Hopefully any further cases will remain in the group that are already in isolating.

So far as I understand it I think all cases either caught it (masked and possibly brief exposure) direct from the family of three, or due to being a household contact (ie would have extended and close maskless contact) of a person who caught it direct from the family of three.

So nebulised virus is highly transmissible.

Non-nebulised virus while still of the more transmissible strain it is unknown in how extra transmissible it is. Plus it may be that it is more transmissible in part due to people just remaining infectious for longer periods than the older strains. If so then casual contact may not be any riskier.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Agree with your list. My curiosity was mainly because the shopping centre at Sunbury was designated a Tier 2 exposure site.

Yes I am curious too.

Mask wearing should be back in shopping centres (I am in Qld at present and so do not know what the current compliance is in shopping centres in Vic.

However it may be that Shopping Centre case was wandering around and so could have exposed random people, and exposed any one of the people at the shopping centre at that time. And those random people will not at all know if they were close to the case or not. So on that basis the risk would be higher at the shopping centre than someone walking past the cafe, but not entering to get near the worker.


Whereas the cafe worker was at a fixed location. So unless people went to the cafe they will not have been close. The worker will have nominated other staff or people that they know that they were close to on the day and they would all be testing and be isolating.

 

[nutwood]

One would hope they had placed portable speed change signs in place to allow for the congestion instead of coming up on a traffic jam at full speed in the middle of the night.

Is the checkpoint right on the border? It was SA police stopping the traffic and I wonder if they'd be able to place speed change signs across the border? That'd be a job for the Victorian police....

 

[Pushka]

Is the checkpoint right on the border? It was SA police stopping the traffic and I wonder if they'd be able to place speed change signs across the border? That'd be a job for the Victorian police....

Yes. On the Victorian side. It’s a difficult one although even though it’s an SA decision the congestion on the Victorian side should require attention by Victorian Police but given Victoria’s border was open at the time it’s likely they did not have the manpower right there on such short notice.