New Borns on International Long Haul flights

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Reggie

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Hello AFFer's, yes I am still around, lots been happening at work and home.

Any way to my question. What is the youngest age of a newborn you have taken or known to be taken on longhaul international flights. Like PER/SYD/MEL - SIN - LHR.

Is there are a minimum age airlines enforce for flights?

Lastly for the medico types, what are the dangers for new borns on flights, (permenant ear damage, airborne disease etc) disease. What precautions should be taken?
 
I don't believe there is a minimum age enforced by major airlines. In fact, there are many recorded incidents of babies being born during a flight, so that would be the youngest!

In practical terms, the limit will be time needed to apply for and receive a passport for the infant. You can book the international flight with a lap infant and add the name details after the baby has been born/named. I have done that for both domestic and international travel. The youngest any of our children have flown is about 3 weeks (domestic BNE-ADL-PER).

Keep in mind that healthy young babies are extremely resilient. The birth process of a natural delivery has often been described as the most dangerous trip anyone will every undertake. An airline flight is trivial after that!
 
I echo NM's comments.
Do be aware, though, that babies can get sick very very quickly. I wouldn't want to be hopping the pacific if that happened. Of course, that is a risk you would have to consider for yourself.
There aren't any specific risks I can think of for infants travelling, other than the time-to-help issue. You would need back up for feeds - if breast-feeding, for instance, what happens if mum gets the flu the day before and temporarily runs out of milk, or gets mastitis on the plane and can't feed. Just make sure you have adequate baby supplies :)

Good luck!
 
There is a theory (and I will try to track down a source) that says long-haul flights for infants could increase the SIDS risk. I think it was something to do with the reduced partial pressure of Oxygen being a potential trigger.

I remember taking my first born to NZ when he was about 10 weeks old and he slept through the night for the first time in the hotel after the flight. But maybe it was the gins and tonic he was knocking back in the lounge.
 
You need to speak to a medical specialist on this for advice pertinent to your condition, in terms of general advice, under two months post natal there is significant risk of Venous Thrombosis for the mum accroding to many government health sites that may require the use of compression stockings, and my partner was advised no travel for 6 weeks after a C section, which was not optional!
 
Interesting thread. We have a UK trip booked in October for us and babysimpending who was due in early April and now might join us in the next few days. We have already started to wonder if we need to reconsider the trip due to long term effects of being premature...
 
Interesting thread. We have a UK trip booked in October for us and babysimpending who was due in early April and now might join us in the next few days. We have already started to wonder if we need to reconsider the trip due to long term effects of being premature...

Congratulations Simon. Ours is due early May. I have to go to Europe for work in late July. My partner is a "to and from", and is thinking of joining me so we can go onto England for her Dad to see his grandchild. Thus our baby would be around 9 to 10 weeks old. We will talk it over with the doctor though
 
The in laws took SWMBO to LHR when she was about 3 or 4 months old and she's ok. :rolleyes: ;) Her adopted brother also flew from Sri lanka to Oz when he was 2.5 months. He's also ok :rolleyes:

SWMBO reckons the baby books recommend not flying younger then 1 month, due to their immune system needing some protection up to about 1 month. If there are immune system issues that might have some bearing for a premature baby.
 
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One suggestion: learn how to "pop" your baby's ears.

On our homeward-bound honeymoon flight from London back to Sydney, there was a baby who literally cried throughout the WHOLE trip, non-stop. It was awful, for both the parents and the other passengers. The stewardesses did what they could, taking the mother and baby out to the back section, etc. etc.

Not having any kids of our own, we told my in-laws about it, and the first thing they said was the ear popping thing, because babies don't know how to do it themselves, so if you don't do it for them they'll spend the entire trip in excrutiating pain due to the pressure imbalance between the cabin and the inside of their head.
 
IME the best way to soothe the baby is by feeding them. The sucking motion has a calming effect. This feeding/suckling motion probably has the effect of popping their ears. (I have no idea how it would be at all possible to pop a baby's ears for them as a parent.) I've only taken babies on domestic flights, so a bit shorter then international. However, I have experienced other babies being quite upset on international filights and the parents have been doing very little feeding.
 
For slightly older children you can get Kids earplanes as well. Only designed for 1 and up tho.
 
IME the best way to soothe the baby is by feeding them. The sucking motion has a calming effect. This feeding/suckling motion probably has the effect of popping their ears. (I have no idea how it would be at all possible to pop a baby's ears for them as a parent.) I've only taken babies on domestic flights, so a bit shorter then international. However, I have experienced other babies being quite upset on international filights and the parents have been doing very little feeding.
Yes, feeding is the trick. Breastfeeding works well. Time the feed for just after take-off and again about 20 mins before landing or just after top of decent. Since the very small infant is going be held during these times anyway (cannot use bassinet during take-off and landing) its generally a simple process to feed at this time (at least for the mother!).

Change the nappy regularly since you never know just when its going to be filled with nasty stuff and how that will be timed with an extended seatbelt sign illumination.

Remember that infants lose a great deal of their warmth through their and head hands and feet. Keep them well rugged up even if you feel comfortable. A bonnet/beanie is helpful as are socks for the feet at all times.

Carry all you may need, include a spare blanket (you never know when the infant will decide they need to purge their internals and make a mess on their blanket), change of clothes etc.

Know your baby as best you can so you can best identify the cause of crying and disruption. Are they crying because they are uncomfortable due to dirty nappy? Are they hungry? Do they have a pain in the tummy? Do they need to have a good burp (not blurp). Are they just over-tired and need to sleep?

Talk to your doctor about the best medications to carry. Some may need a letter from your doctor to carry into some countries. Consider things like low-dose paracetamol, Phennergan etc. But do follow your doctor's advice on these things. Note that whilst Phennergan is an antihistamine, it will promote tiredness in most infants, but can have the opposite affect in some. It is handy for drying up mucus/phlegm etc but need to be careful with dehydration as this drying affect in combination with the low humidity of an aircraft cabin should be considered. Again, you doctor is the best place for advice.

A light-weight carrying device is handy for getting through airports. We have used a few different things. We first had a small carry bed with handles. Looks a little like a duffel bag and zips up to keep the baby snug. For out fourth, Mrs NM had a sling type device that was very well designed and flexible and held the small baby easily. Just make sure the infant is used to whatever you use so they feel comfortable and are happy to sleep. Keep is light and easy to carry. It will likely come in handy during the land portion of the trip anyway. The original carry bed we had was used as the baby's sleeping quarters in many hotel rooms and other accommodation places. We used it all the time even when not travelling, if just visiting friends houses etc.

These days people tend to use their car capsules for this purpose, but they are way too heavy and bulky for carrying around especially through an airport etc. If taking your own car restraint on the trip, check it in with you luggage and have something small and light for use during the trip. Older children who are able to sit in a car seat may be better off with the seat on-board, but I am talking here about really small babies.
 
Having had 3 kids myself....

Babies flying are easy.

It is when they get a bit older and need to be "entertained" that a parents flying gets to bea chore as you becomea full-time entertainment Director;)

Luckily all three are of an age now that they can enteratin themselves...and on International Flights the introduction of electronics games resulted in instant bliss for us as treavelling parents.

Back on babies.

I always used a travelling back-pack for kids .

Much better than strollers at you destination as can be used on stairs, sandy beaches etc...
Get one that can be collapsed.


Babies and young kids also allow you to ask to board early. Which with extra carry bags normally makes for a relaxed start rather than jostling with the hordes.
 
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