Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[lovetravellingoz]

23 at the moment ...3 to 5 more today...likely to be 30.

Total in towers about 3000. So already 1:100 are COVID Positive

I’m not sure how Vic handled Aged care, but hopefully the resident is let out if they need hospitalisation. I know NSW did not let many aged care (eg Newmarch) out to receive hospital care when required which is very wrong.

Premier Daniel Andrews said in recent days, at least 23 cases had been identified in more than 12 households in the Flemington and North Melbourne public housing estates.

So about almost 2 households per tower. You also wonder how many in these towers had refused testing, and so true infection numbers could be higher.

 

[moa999]

I didn't catch all the tower addresses, but as I understand there are two large plots (with multiple street addresses) that each contain a number of towers and share common parking and some other facilities

 

[p--and--t]

Premier Daniel Andrews said in recent days, at least 23 cases had been identified in more than 12 households in the Flemington and North Melbourne public housing estates.

So about almost 2 households per tower. You also wonder how many in these towers had refused testing, and so true infection numbers could be higher.

Those suburbs are new to the hot spot suburb list. So is the "decline test" figure in any way relevant to those towers?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I didn't catch all the tower addresses, but as I understand there are two large plots (with multiple street addresses) that each contain a number of towers and share common parking and some other facilities

500 police per shift indicates a lot of access points and floors that need to be controlled.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

I didn't catch all the tower addresses, but as I understand there are two large plots (with multiple street addresses) that each contain a number of towers and share common parking and some other facilities

Courtesy of ABC website Covid live blog

12 Sutton Street, North Melbourne, 33 Alfred Street in North Melbourne, 76 Canning Street in North Melbourne, 159 Melrose Street in North Melbourne and 9 Pampas Street in North Melbourne.

And the Flemington addresses are: 12 Holland Court, 120 Racecourse Rd, 126 Racecourse Rd and 130 Racecourse Rd.

 

[jakeseven7]

Another outbreak at Newmarch House in Sydney.

So can we start talking about living with the virus spread yet or are we all still breathlessly reporting numbers....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279297766028529664

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Those suburbs are new to the hot spot suburb list. So is the "decline test" figure in any way relevant to those towers?

That is exactly what I just speculated on. But this aspect was not reported on.

Flemington/Kensington was announced yesterday as of being of concern. North Melbourne was not though. (Note that the northern Melbourne cluster is not actually in North Melbourne. )

 

[p--and--t]

That is exactly what I just speculated on. But this aspect was not reported on.

Flemington/Kensington was announced yesterday as of being of concern. North Melbourne was not though. (Note that the northern Melbourne cluster is not actually in North Melbourne. )

For an armchair viewer like me, so many questions we can't ask of speakers to clarify what some of the statements mean and what is the context; and then some reporters wasting time repeatedly asking stupid questions to try and grab a headline or push an agenda.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Those suburbs are new to the hot spot suburb list. So is the "decline test" figure in any way relevant to those towers?

By my logic no.........decline would only be in exisiting hotspot suburbs/postcodes. So by implication the new suburbs-postcode could not have driven them being added.

my guess is the new hotspots were added because of routine testing bringing enough positive cases.

 

[p--and--t]

By my logic no.........decline would only be in exisiting hotspot suburbs/postcodes. So by implication the new suburbs-postcode could not have driven them being added.

my guess is the new hotspots were added because of routine testing bringing enough positive cases.

Exactly my thoughts.

Oh and contact tracing possibly.

 

[jakeseven7]

Good news for the postcodes though with lower cases - may be released early.

 

[moa999]

So can we start talking about living with the virus spread yet or are we all still breathlessly reporting numbers....

Let's wait to see what the result is.

You can't live with the virus normally. As we've seen in Victoria one outbreak can spread like wildfire when people go back to normal.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

So can we start talking about living with the virus spread yet or are we all still breathlessly reporting numbers....

clearly not, but from my point of view it’s a personal responsibility thing of social distancing, hand washing and minimising close contacts and probably most importantly getting tested when showing symptoms....regardless of your State of residence (of course social distancing in actual space/metres means something different depending on your State)

 

[trevella]

9 Public Housing Towers to be locked down completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No reason that anyone can leave for 5 days immediately.

(bolding yours)

Is the information really all that much more powerful when bolded and accompanied by 37 exclamation marks?

You seem to be unravellingoz.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Another outbreak at Newmarch House in Sydney.

So can we start talking about living with the virus spread yet or are we all still breathlessly reporting numbers....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1279297766028529664

A little irony in your post as you are reporting numbers, when there are as yet no numbers


My MIL's aged care home went into flu lockdown twice in 2019. My mum was in respite care briefly a fortnight back as dad was in for back surgery. The visiting Dr at her facility developed flu like symptoms and so it went into lockdown till he tested negative.

So if you post every aged care flu lockdown this may become a busy thread.

It could just be the flu. We are after all in flu season now even it is not as common as it is in most years.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

(bolding yours)

Is the information really all that much more powerful when bolded and accompanied by 37 exclamation marks?

You seem to be unravellingoz.

The bolding is an emphasis. This is the first such lockdown in Australia and as such I thought it worthy of emphasising. You clearly disagree.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

By my logic no.........decline would only be in exisiting hotspot suburbs/postcodes.

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Not so. Close contacts of any positive cases are asked to test and so can decline. Some in hotel quarantine have also declined.

But yes the door knockers would have been asking many more people than the contact tracers.

 

[Flying mermaid]

If that's the case then maybe we can have the conversation of how we can get to live with this virus because it is here for the long run.

The medical advice has always been that suppression was the aim, not elimination ( although many areas have been way more successful than was thought possible). That’s why they keep on talking about getting back to COVID normal. I.e. out and about with social distancing, washing hands, isolating and testing. Suppressing is very different to letting it rampage like in the USA.

by delaying exposure they now have more idea of how to treat it e.g, why young, healthy people were dying of strokes. They also have anti virals, steroi_s, trialling blood plasma and maybe even getting closer to a vaccine.

 

[Pushka]

The medical advice has always been that suppression was the aim, not elimination ( although many areas have been way more successful than was thought possible). That’s why they keep on talking about getting back to COVID normal. I.e. out and about with social distancing, washing hands, isolating and testing. Suppressing is very different to letting it rampage like in the USA.

by delaying exposure they now have more idea of how to treat it e.g, why young, healthy people were dying of strokes. They also have anti virals, steroi_s, trialling blood plasma and maybe even getting closer to a vaccine.

The rhetoric in SA came as close to "elimination" as you can get. Every day without a positive was cause of much celebration. Then perhaps two weeks ago it shifted to management instead of elimination which was a good thing. Trouble is a large proportion of the population much preferred the elimination word and are very vocal in expressing their dislike of any kind of new normal.

 

[jakeseven7]

The rhetoric in SA came as close to "elimination" as you can get. Every day without a positive was cause of much celebration. Then perhaps two weeks ago it shifted to management instead of elimination which was a good thing. Trouble is a large proportion of the population much preferred the elimination word and are very vocal in expressing their dislike of any kind of new normal.

Yes.... ahem.... WA? Clearly they aren’t on board / don’t understand the suppression strategy.