Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Pushka]

We can only hope that with Victorian school holidays that the spread doesn’t extend outside the border.

 

[moa999]

A few issues for the AFL and NRL.
Although AFL is already doing this for WA with Pies and Cats planning to spend three weeks there - playing each other and training whilst in a modified quarantine, then out for the last two games

 

[moa999]

And of the 75 Vic cases only 1 is hotel quarantine
• 14 linked to known outbreaks
• 37 routine testing
• 23 under investigation

The lack of those connected to other outbreaks is concerning

 

[Gremlin]

No criticism of the idiot reporter asking a stupid question? Given the appalling situation in VIC I would be very happy to see the QLD border stay very firmly shut

I've spoken to several Qlders who have said that they have cancelled their (Qld) holiday plans for September and instead are having a local holiday during the current school break. On the basis that there's little risk of exposure now, but it's an unknown proposition if/when borders reopen.

 

[james4321]

Why?Just do as AP has already said with football teams.If contact with a Victorian then 14 days quarantine.
So just need to say if from Victoria you have to quarantine.
I would probably add due to the dishonesty of the few if you don't have an ID with tour place of residence quarantine as well.Why penalise everybody.

And of course those totally honest VIC citizens will play by the rules and would never tell a lie at all would they !!

 

[p--and--t]

Given the appalling situation in VIC

We have one (1) person in ICU and last time I looked six people in hospital. Truly "appalling'

Coronavirus: Covid-19 death toll hits 500,000 worldwide

With more than 10 million confirmed cases, the virus is spreading rapidly in many parts of the world.

www.bbc.com

 

[jakeseven7]

On the basis that there's little risk of exposure now, but it's an unknown proposition if/when borders reopen.

As the state borders reopen in a few weeks I suspect a lot of people are going to be booking very last minute holidays /trips!

For example I have several 'tentative' holidays marked with leave 'approved' - but I'm going to be literally waiting until days out to book flights (hotels booked flexi already)...

How on earth does QF, VA2 manage that I wonder.... what a nightmare

 

[Pushka]

A few issues for the AFL and NRL.
Although AFL is already doing this for WA with Pies and Cats planning to spend three weeks there - playing each other and training whilst in a modified quarantine, then out for the last two games

They were so sure of themselves with their planning.

We have August award flights booked for Cairns (from SA) but no accommodation booked.
So the virus has spread but not into hospitals. We have to have a plan on how to manage this.

 

[jakeseven7]

They were so sure of themselves with their planning.

There is only one sure thing with this virus, that it will spread everywhere... There is a community transmission case that NSW Health are sitting hoping doesn't explode - the school kid who had mild symptoms and didn't isolate for a week... who knows how many contacts he had in a primarily asymptomatic age cohort....

I'm pretty sure we need a big change of gear soon... I'm just not certain who can lead it here....

 

[Pushka]

There is only one sure thing with this virus, that it will spread everywhere... There is a community transmission case that NSW are sitting hoping doesn't explode - the school kid who had mild symptoms and didn't isolate for a week... who knows how many contacts he had in a primarily asymptomatic age cohort....

I'm pretty sure we need a big change of gear soon... I'm just not certain who can lead it here....

Isolate vulnerable people when needed I’m thinking. But it’s a hot mess. And it’s not like we didn’t even control the overseas borders.

 

[james4321]

We have one (1) person in ICU and last time I looked six people in hospital. Truly "appalling'

Coronavirus: Covid-19 death toll hits 500,000 worldwide

With more than 10 million confirmed cases, the virus is spreading rapidly in many parts of the world.

www.bbc.com

And 75 new cases today, I’d call that appalling

 

[Gremlin]

We have one (1) person in ICU and last time I looked six people in hospital. Truly "appalling'

Coronavirus: Covid-19 death toll hits 500,000 worldwide

With more than 10 million confirmed cases, the virus is spreading rapidly in many parts of the world.

www.bbc.com

Personally, I'm not laughing at the situation. I don't think the current hospitalisation rate is necessarily the issue, it's the risk of it exponentiating again. The most concerning element for me that came out of Prof Sutton's presser was the assertion that they "now have over 2,500 close contacts of confirmed infecteds which is at the limit of what [they] are able to effectively manage."

In other words, Vic is now at a sufficient volume where high quality contact tracing and high quality individual isolation management techniques are on the verge of breaking down. Whatever the alternatives are, it's not a scenario where any of us win.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Personally, I'm not laughing at the situation. I don't think the current hospitalisation rate is necessarily the issue, it's the risk of it exponentiating again. The most concerning element for me that came out of Prof Sutton's presser was the assertion that they "now have over 2,500 close contacts of confirmed infecteds which is at the limit of what [they] are able to effectively manage."

In other words, Vic is now at a sufficient volume where high quality contact tracing and high quality individual isolation management techniques are on the verge of breaking down. Whatever the alternatives are, it's not a scenario where any of us win.

If you add what I heard from Dr Coatsworth (on TV today?) that each case usually 10 close contacts. Then that could mean potentially another 12500 if halfof them (unlikely) are positive.

PS he was talking/defending the COVIDSafe app.

 

[moa999]

Vic is basically back to where they were at the peak in March in terms of community spread
Time for either the whole of Melbourne or certain LGAs to go back to high lockdown. We proved that could work - time to do it again

 

[p--and--t]

And 75 new cases today, I’d call that appalling

I'd point out that the highest cause of deaths in Australia for 15-44 yo's is suicide. It is the 4th highest cause of deaths in 45-64 yo's. Studies have repeatedly shown that there is a direct relationship between the rate of these deaths (particularly in men who die at many times the rate of women) and unemployment. The death rate in 2015 was 12.6 per 100,000 or eight persons per day (75% of which are men). That is in a normal year 1,680 deaths by June 29th. I can't find online figures for 2020 but the stresses and economic turmoil of the last three months would have seen a spike in those figures.

The longer borders are closed, the longer businesses are shut and the more people thrown out of work, the higher these figures will spiral.

Those figures are appalling. Covid is concerning.

We need to find ways to manage Covid without sending the unemployment rate of the entire nation through the ceiling.

 

[Gremlin]

We need to find ways to manage Covid without sending the unemployment rate through the ceiling.

Right. You do understand that the alternatives being considered as a result of hitting capacity for contact tracing and individual isolation management is further lockdowns? Not sure that solves your unemployment issue nor addresses the downstream consequences. Again, that's why I'm not laughing at the emerging situation.

 

[p--and--t]

Right. You do understand that the alternatives being considered as a result of hitting capacity for contact tracing and individual isolation management is further lockdowns? Not sure that solves your unemployment issue nor addresses the downstream consequences. Again, that's why I'm not laughing at the emerging situation.

Agreed Covid is not a laughing matter and the situation is concerning and requiring urgent attention. Some of the reactions and statements/language and proposed solutions are.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Number has been changing between 71 & 75 on ABC,

75 new cases, 4 old cases reclassified so the increase is 71.

 

[Gremlin]

So Premier Marshall in SA has just said that the reopening of the state border on the 20th of July is now "under a cloud". He also said that they "will look very closely at [Victoria] and update the people of South Australia as soon as we possible can."

 

[jakeseven7]

So Premier Marshall in SA has just said that the reopening of the state border on the 20th of July is now "under a cloud". He also said that they "will look very closely at [Victoria] and update the people of South Australia as soon as we possible can."

Is it raining in Adelaide again?