Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[gfraser]

I need some help with a little bit of " outside the square " thinking.
I have all my OWA bookings except New York to San Francisco on 27 December 2020 for 2 people.
There doesn't appear to be any availability and I need some help, whether it involves several stops or not.
I would prefer J but Y will suffice.

 

[Ktan89]

My full itinerary for reference is:
Sept/Oct
SINxHKG-AMS <stop 1>
ZRHxDOHxMNLxSYD-BNE <stop2>

Dec/Jan
BNExSYD-HND <Stop 3>
NRTxHKG-ADL <end>

I would try to look at the following:
SIN-DOH-AMS <Stop 1>
EUROPE - HKG/NRT- BNE <stop2>
(fly from many different Europe destinations straight to HKG/NRT or through HEL (AY) or DOH(QR) - remember you can transit twice at a city or even have a stop over since you are only using 4 our of 5 stops)

BNE/SYD- HND <stop 3>
NRT-HKG-ADL<end>

 

[Danger]

I need some help with a little bit of " outside the square " thinking.
I have all my OWA bookings except New York to San Francisco on 27 December 2020 for 2 people.
There doesn't appear to be any availability and I need some help, whether it involves several stops or not.
I would prefer J but Y will suffice.

Well you've got a plethora of connecting options but whether or not they are available as award seats is another story.

I see the QF engine is only giving two AS options when searching point-to-point. I suggest lending the engine a hand and using the multi-city function, searching via other hubs. For example, try searching via DFW, ORD, CLT, PHL, PHX or MIA. You may also need to consider catching a train to PHL or similar and starting from there.

 

[k_sheep]

Using ITA as a guide, SCL-MAD on IB has YQ of $480 USD (ouch!)
SCL-LHR $263 USD, but also the LHR APD is another $200 odd I believe? So pretty comparable on price. Unsure how this actually relates to the real world.
EZE-MAD on IB is a bit more reasonable at $287.

So, fingers crossed, I'm going to try tomorrow to lock in the first half up to Europe:
kix-syd (stop) -scl-eze (stop) -mad-(bud or vie or fra or vie, stop) - doh - mel (stop) -kix
Ultimate destination in Europe is KTT, but I just don't have the miles spare

Another option was Mnl-hkg-syd-scl-eze-lhr-hel-sin-syd-mnl ....... but it seems HEL-SIN is near impossible to get.
Mnl-hkg-syd-scl-eze-mad-hel-doh-adl-mnl might be easier, and just sneaks under the miles.

Any sage words of advice? Any experience with taxes and surcharges ex-Japan vs ex-Philippines?

 

[AL10]

Called QF to make changes to my flights. Unfortunately caught out by married segments on QR, so cannot change Milan to SIN to AMS - SIN even though there are seats available when you search each individual flight.

Edit - also caught out on JL, as I was J from SFO to HND, and premium economy from HND - SIN. A J seat is now available from HND-SIN and I am unable to book that on the same flight.

 

[Aristotle9]

- also caught out on JL, as I was J from SFO to HND, and premium economy from HND - SIN. A J seat is now available from HND-SIN and I am unable to book that on the same flight

If a J is available for SFO-HND, U could break the two up so long as its under 24 hours without using a stop over

 

[AL10]

If a J is available for SFO-HND, U could break the two up so long as its under 24 hours without using a stop over

Thanks for that suggestion. I'm currently J SFO-HND, but not HND-SIN. I do have a layover in HND for about 6 hrs. I will call QF and see if I can split the tickets up and be within my segments.

 

[flychrisfly]

My main question still is - is it possible to fly MIA-DFW (land at 9am) and then DFW-HND (depart 11am)? Is Qantas able to combine them into a single ticket so I don't have to re-check in?

Yes, that connection at DFW is easily doable. Why would they be on separate tickets? The whole OWA is on a single ticket - that's kinda the point.

 

[ozflier]

Hi, my memory is fading so please help

I am working on a 2 section rtw J booking travelling some 6 months apart– It is getting tight with stopovers and sectors .

I am not thinking the best and can’t seem to search this thread, but can you help clarify the following

I will be flying, in one of the 2 broken up sections

BNE-SYD(transit) -HKG (transit)-CTU-surface (for 7 days) -HKG (transit) -SIN-home on my own expense til i return 6 months later.

I understand that the computer will regard that as 5 sectors.

SIN is going to be treated as a stopover.

I am interested in whether QFF will treat HKG-CTU surface - HKG as a stopover as well.

I would value your thoughts.

 

[maaz]

I have started booking my OWA in J for January/February 2021. I have already booked the first leg PERxHKG - AMS on 21 Jan 2021. Both my husband and I are Gold FF so we can see the outbound journey but not the inbound on or about 24 Feb to 27 Feb).

My proposed legs are:
PERxHKG - AMS stopover 1 (already booked and ticketed for 21 Jan 2021)
AMSxHEL - ARN stopover 2
ARN - BGO stopover 3
BGO - HEL stopover 4
HEL - HND stopover 5
HND - SIN - PER (to come back home and I have found this flight operates on a Saturday)

So my proposed sectors are:
PER-HKG-AMS-HEL-ARN-BGO-HEL-HND-SIN-PER
or maybe
PER-HKG-AMS-HEL-ARN-BGO-HEL-HND- East coast OZ – PER

I cannot seem to find any opportunity to fly back to Australia from Japan except through Asia (which I would like to avoid). I am sure I saw something out of Osaka to the east coast of Oz a couple of weeks ago but cannot find it again (it was just background checking so it was not on my window of dates).

Question 1:The flights awards from HEL to ARN and to BGO are in the main operated by Wederoe for Finnair. Do these flights qualify in the Oneworld Classic reward? If they are not then we just might book them separately with points and have HEL only as a stopover and not use it to transit.

Question 2: If I book all the flights – lets say six separate sectors – can I ring Qantas and have them all put together?

Question 3: I know it is best to book the longer flights as they come up but I wondered whether I should wait until the final leg (back to PER) is available before I book all the shorter internal flights.

This is my first attempt at doing a Oneworld classic rewards and I have to say it is a challenge.

 

[ozflier]

I have started booking my OWA in J for January/February 2021. I have already booked the first leg PERxHKG - AMS on 21 Jan 2021. Both my husband and I are Gold FF so we can see the outbound journey but not the inbound on or about 24 Feb to 27 Feb).

My proposed legs are:
PERxHKG - AMS stopover 1 (already booked and ticketed for 21 Jan 2021)
AMSxHEL - ARN stopover 2
ARN - BGO stopover 3
BGO - HEL stopover 4
HEL - HND stopover 5
HND - SIN - PER (to come back home and I have found this flight operates on a Saturday)

So my proposed sectors are:
PER-HKG-AMS-HEL-ARN-BGO-HEL-HND-SIN-PER
or maybe
PER-HKG-AMS-HEL-ARN-BGO-HEL-HND- East coast OZ – PER

I cannot seem to find any opportunity to fly back to Australia from Japan except through Asia (which I would like to avoid). I am sure I saw something out of Osaka to the east coast of Oz a couple of weeks ago but cannot find it again (it was just background checking so it was not on my window of dates).

Question 1:The flights awards from HEL to ARN and to BGO are in the main operated by Wederoe for Finnair. Do these flights qualify in the Oneworld Classic reward? If they are not then we just might book them separately with points and have HEL only as a stopover and not use it to transit.

Question 2: If I book all the flights – lets say six separate sectors – can I ring Qantas and have them all put together?

Question 3: I know it is best to book the longer flights as they come up but I wondered whether I should wait until the final leg (back to PER) is available before I book all the shorter internal flights.

This is my first attempt at doing a Oneworld classic rewards and I have to say it is a challenge.

Re Q1, affiliate airlines do count for bookings on a OWA ( eg like Comair) but not always. I know Wederoe codeshares with Finnair but i am not too confident they count for a OWA- I dread the answers you will get from QFF if you ask them .
Re Q2 ,you cannot take a separate booked itinerary and add it to an already booked one like the OWA.
Re Q3, my experience is that there are plenty of J award seats in europe so no mad rush to add them and incur the 5000 points pp each time fee.

 

[Oubline]

Hi, my memory is fading so please help

I am working on a 2 section rtw J booking travelling some 6 months apart– It is getting tight with stopovers and sectors .

I am not thinking the best and can’t seem to search this thread, but can you help clarify the following

I will be flying, in one of the 2 broken up sections

BNE-SYD(transit) -HKG (transit)-CTU-surface (for 7 days) -HKG (transit) -SIN-home on my own expense til i return 6 months later.

I understand that the computer will regard that as 5 sectors.

SIN is going to be treated as a stopover.

I am interested in whether QFF will treat HKG-CTU surface - HKG as a stopover as well.

I would value your thoughts.

I think CTU would be considered a stopover in this case, as it will be a city that you are arriving in and not leaving within 24 hours.

 

[Daver6]

Question 1:The flights awards from HEL to ARN and to BGO are in the main operated by Wederoe for Finnair. Do these flights qualify in the Oneworld Classic reward? If they are not then we just might book them separately with points and have HEL only as a stopover and not use it to transit.

Re Q1, affiliate airlines do count for bookings on a OWA ( eg like Comair) but not always. I know Wederoe codeshares with Finnair but i am not too confident they count for a OWA- I dread the answers you will get from QFF if you ask them .

There is one single OW flight a day into BGO. That's an AY flight from HEL - BGO, operated by Wideroe for AY. This can be included on a OWA booking.

I had this booked this booked as part of a OWA last year. Unfortunately AY had a schedule change and cancelled that flight on the day I needed. This presented a problem as I had a ship to catch. So if you're heading to BGO for a cruise, try arrive a day early

 

[ozflier]

I think CTU would be considered a stopover in this case, as it will be a city that you are arriving in and not leaving within 24 hours.

Thank you , That is a great way of looking at the question.

 

[GaryLG]

Apologies for questions that I am sure have been asked before but so far I have not found where the answers are.

I'm starting to plan my oneworld itinerary and I like the idea of splitting the travel into 2 parts, maybe a month at the start of the 12 months and a month of travel at the end.

I believe that means starting or ending the itinerary outside of Australia. I'm in Melbourne and I have seen suggestions of Bali and Singapore, but I would be interested in other suggestions that will work and be a short cheap flight?

New Zealand came to mind - does that work? Other thoughts please?

My second question might be a bit harder but I am trying to identify airlines and routes/flights that have first class cabins?

Just wondering how practical a booking in first would be or whether I would just spend most flights in business.

Thanks for this
Gary

 

[melbkate]

Apologies for questions that I am sure have been asked before but so far I have not found where the answers are.

I'm starting to plan my oneworld itinerary and I like the idea of splitting the travel into 2 parts, maybe a month at the start of the 12 months and a month of travel at the end.

I believe that means starting or ending the itinerary outside of Australia. I'm in Melbourne and I have seen suggestions of Bali and Singapore, but I would be interested in other suggestions that will work and be a short cheap flight?

New Zealand came to mind - does that work? Other thoughts please?

My second question might be a bit harder but I am trying to identify airlines and routes/flights that have first class cabins?

Just wondering how practical a booking in first would be or whether I would just spend most flights in business.

Thanks for this
Gary

Hi Gary

I asked a similar question last year and got some great examples and responses on this thread page 347

Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

You will need to collect and recheck. ADL is not a 24 hour airport. Thanks. That works perfectly for me. It's going to be a long trip and some access to our bags will make life a bit easier.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[GaryLG]

Hi Gary

I asked a similar question last year and got some great examples and responses on this thread page 347

Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

You will need to collect and recheck. ADL is not a 24 hour airport. Thanks. That works perfectly for me. It's going to be a long trip and some access to our bags will make life a bit easier.

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Thanks, That's a great start.

 

[exceladdict]

Apologies for questions that I am sure have been asked before but so far I have not found where the answers are.

I'm starting to plan my oneworld itinerary and I like the idea of splitting the travel into 2 parts, maybe a month at the start of the 12 months and a month of travel at the end.

I believe that means starting or ending the itinerary outside of Australia. I'm in Melbourne and I have seen suggestions of Bali and Singapore, but I would be interested in other suggestions that will work and be a short cheap flight?

New Zealand came to mind - does that work? Other thoughts please?

My second question might be a bit harder but I am trying to identify airlines and routes/flights that have first class cabins?

Just wondering how practical a booking in first would be or whether I would just spend most flights in business.

Thanks for this
Gary

NZ is a closer starting point in terms of saving mileage, but has similar surcharges to Australia and ultimately still means backtracking unless it is a destination you plan to visit.

MNL is well known as the cheapest and you can get there cheaply on direct flights from the east coast. But beware the issues of losing those price advantages if you make any changes to your itinerary.

Unless you are platinum and can request first cabins open up on QF, id suggest shooting for first will be very difficult. Personally I will aim for lots of Quite business in my next big trip

 

[GaryLG]

NZ is a closer starting point in terms of saving mileage, but has similar surcharges to Australia and ultimately still means backtracking unless it is a destination you plan to visit.

MNL is well known as the cheapest and you can get there cheaply on direct flights from the east coast. But beware the issues of losing those price advantages if you make any changes to your itinerary.

Unless you are platinum and can request first cabins open up on QF, id suggest shooting for first will be very difficult. Personally I will aim for lots of Quite business in my next big trip

Thanks that's useful to know.

 

[bnr032]

So After reading through this, I am also at a stage where i am looking at booking my Award RTW soon (i am waiting ANZ sending through the rest of my points to my FF account first).
Im Trying to do the following in Business.
28/7 - BNE-SYD-YVR or YYC
5/8 - YVR or YYC- LHR- ARN or CPH
15/8 - ARN/CPH to EDI (i could possibly make this a land sector and buy seperate cheap flights?)
30/8 - EDI-LHR-YYC
11/9 - YYC-??-BNE

When trying to put that into Qantas, i only get options that are not one world, Where as sky scanner shows there is other options, but if i put in my connections as 'seperate trips' i seem to be over the 6 flight magic number.

The other issues are: if i do the ARN/CPH flight to EDI, all of the One World seem to go through LHR, which would mean im over my 2x throughfares
With the first stop at YVR or YYC, i realistically need it to be at the same airport (in and out) to limit Land sectors to allow me to possibly not get a One World flight out of YYC on way home(buy a cash ticket instead)

Any Suggestions are greatly appreciated.