Oneworld Classic Flight Reward Discussion - The Definitive Thread

[Princess Fiona]

Re: One world Round The World Business booking using Qantas points.

Last friday I got two business class tickets from Qantas using points.. 280K each ticket with $120 booking fees for two and $3000 for fees for two.
Traveling in July 2017, Syd-Lon-NY-HK-Tok-Syd. 6 Weeks total travel time. Qantas FF help was very good and the guy spend lots of time to get this booking.

Well done. They are great value. There's an extensive thread on One World Awards
One World Awards
Can the mods please move this ? Thanks

 

[JohnPhelan]

Re: One world Round The World Business booking using Qantas points.

16 hours in J is great - just the right length to have a meal, watch a movie or two, then get eight hours sleep, then wake up for another meal and landing - I think it's the perfect flight duration (similar to DFW-SYD).

 

[hankahanka]

Can you activate that yourself or rely on the random popup?

Random pop up, but it pops up pretty much every time i'm on the QF website. The person on the other end seemed to know a lot more than the punks in the call centre who had hung up on me 3 times out of 4.

 

[SNW1406]

Getting ready to book first leg of the 280K Oneworld award flight BNE-SCL. I am watching the LATAM site and waiting for the 15th Sept to show on their website. It shows flights available on 29/08 for 227000kms, is this equivalent to QFF points or just LATAMs version. Also it wont let me book one way only return. Is there a trick to change this?
Once hopefully the flight turns up on LATAMs website, I just call Qantas to try and book the flight is that right?
Thanks

 

[ozflier]

I am trying to organise a OWA via Africa for next June.
I made some changes to my original online booking and the agent helpfully made a suggestion that 2 sectors using Emirates would be a better option than ones on BA.
I suggested that this may not fit with the rules of the award but she said it will be ok.
I'll see if the ticketing actually comes thru or gets bounced!
Anyone else had experience like this and it wasn't rejected?

 

[fairbasa]

Getting ready to book first leg of the 280K Oneworld award flight BNE-SCL. I am watching the LATAM site and waiting for the 15th Sept to show on their website. It shows flights available on 29/08 for 227000kms, is this equivalent to QFF points or just LATAMs version. Also it wont let me book one way only return. Is there a trick to change this?
Once hopefully the flight turns up on LATAMs website, I just call Qantas to try and book the flight is that right?
Thanks

You will be viewing LATAM award availability which may differ from availability it gives to its partner airlines. Best view of availability (which you can actually book with QF points) is either via the Multicity tool on QF's site or searching sector by sector on the BA Executive Club site.

 

[fairbasa]

I am trying to organise a OWA via Africa for next June.
I made some changes to my original online booking and the agent helpfully made a suggestion that 2 sectors using Emirates would be a better option than ones on BA.
I suggested that this may not fit with the rules of the award but she said it will be ok.
I'll see if the ticketing actually comes thru or gets bounced!
Anyone else had experience like this and it wasn't rejected?

Agent is wrong. It's bookable, but including Emirates (a non-OW airline) the points will not cap out at 280k (for J) as they would with a Oneworld award as the itinerary wouldn't qualify.

You'll incur more taxes and fuel fines on BA, but at least it will be eligible. I don't know your exact routing but download the Oneworld map tool to see a complete view of routes.

 

[ozflier]

Ta,that sounds right to me.

 

[madrooster]

Getting ready to book first leg of the 280K Oneworld award flight BNE-SCL. I am watching the LATAM site and waiting for the 15th Sept to show on their website. It shows flights available on 29/08 for 227000kms, is this equivalent to QFF points or just LATAMs version. Also it wont let me book one way only return. Is there a trick to change this?
Once hopefully the flight turns up on LATAMs website, I just call Qantas to try and book the flight is that right?
Thanks

I assume that you intend to route BNE QF AKL LA SCL or BNE QF SYD LA (via AKL) SCL.

If you are doing this, the AKL-SCL or SYD-SCL operated by LA must be booked on the QF codeshare operated by LA (QF321), even on an award. The award inventory on the QF codeshare operated by LA does not match what LA's award inventory has available.

QF/LA's codeshare agreement does not allow QF to book on LA's inventory between AU/NZ and SCL and so QF manages their own award/commercial inventory on this route.

 

[blu]

I did YOWA a year or two back. This time it's the J award, but haven't seen much, if any QF availability at T-353. What I'm not sure about is the assisted fee of 3500 points.
If I book sector 1 as a classic award to lock it in and sometime later, ring to the Call Centre to book the remaining 10 sectors, I think I'm charged 3500 points for each sector per pax. Is that correct?
Also is there post showing when OW partners release awards? QF, QR, BA, CX seem to be around the T-353 time? JL & EY? And AA at 330.

 

[fairbasa]

I did YOWA a year or two back. This time it's the J award, but haven't seen much, if any QF availability at T-353. What I'm not sure about is the assisted fee of 3500 points.
If I book sector 1 as a classic award to lock it in and sometime later, ring to the Call Centre to book the remaining 10 sectors, I think I'm charged 3500 points for each sector per pax. Is that correct?

1. I've noticed most airlines (QF included) aren't releasing all their J inventory T-353 (or similar) days out. The one exception to this seems to be CX who lay it all out there. I'm waiting for QF to release J seats back from Tokyo September next year but they only seem to be releasing them on flights Sunday through Wednesday at this stage.

2. You're charged 3500 points per passenger per change. I.e. each call costs you 3500 points per passenger, but you can make as many changes in one call as you want. Therefore, grouping your changes where possible is the goal

 

[Radio8tiv]

Here you go:

QF 353
CX 360
BA 354
QR 361
AA 330
JL 330
RJ 362
AB 359
AY 361
LA 331
JJ 329
UL 361
IB 361
MH 330

Unsure about S7.

Other useful info:

Carriers visible on QFF: QF, CX, BA, AA, QR, IB, RJ, AB, AY, UL, LA, JJ, EK
Carriers NOT visible on QFF: JL, MH, S7
Carriers visible on BAEC: QF, CX, BA, AA, QR, JL, IB, MH, AB, AY, LA, JJ, UL, S7
Carriers NOT visible on BAEC: RJ

<snip>
Also is there post showing when OW partners release awards? QF, QR, BA, CX seem to be around the T-353 time? JL & EY? And AA at 330.

its back a few pages, maybe someone could add this info to the wiki page above as this question does get asked and answered a few times

 

[Kangol]

its back a few pages, maybe someone could add this info to the wiki page above as this question does get asked and answered a few times

When Do Airlines Open Award Seats? - One Mile at a Time

 

[ozflier]

Hi,
When you are calculating the number of miles for several award sectors without a stopover , do you use the direct routing or the total of the mileage involved when an indirect routing is required?
For example ,
Flying MEL-SYD-JNB-DUR on the first available connections with no stopovers is 7592 miles.
The mileage if there were direct flights MEL-DUR is 6110 miles.
Could a poster kindly tell if the points required for the QF award flight would be calculated on the 7952m ( zone 8 ) or 5110m ( zone 7 )?
many thanks and as always , thank you to all the contributors to this thread.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Don't forget the change fee gets hiked to 5000 points from 15 December, so try to get your itinerary booked by then if you can!

 

[ozflier]

Hi,
When you are calculating the number of miles for several award sectors without a stopover , do you use the direct routing or the total of the mileage involved when an indirect routing is required?
For example ,
Flying MEL-SYD-JNB-DUR on the first available connections with no stopovers is 7592 miles.
The mileage if there were direct flights MEL-DUR is 6110 miles.
Could a poster kindly tell if the points required for the QF award flight would be calculated on the 7952m ( zone 8 ) or 5110m ( zone 7 )?
many thanks and as always , thank you to all the contributors to this thread.

I was hoping if contributors could not answer the question, I could ask QFF this question.
Unlikely, as I have been on hold for over 90 minutes now!
I'll give it another hour.

 

[madrooster]

Hi,When you are calculating the number of miles for several award sectors without a stopover , do you use the direct routing or the total of the mileage involved when an indirect routing is required?For example ,Flying MEL-SYD-JNB-DUR on the first available connections with no stopovers is 7592 miles.The mileage if there were direct flights MEL-DUR is 6110 miles.Could a poster kindly tell if the points required for the QF award flight would be calculated on the 7952m ( zone 8 ) or 5110m ( zone 7 )?many thanks and as always , thank you to all the contributors to this thread.

MEL-SYD-JNB-DUR would be 7628 miles total. If you are doing this as a one way award, it'll price as 2 awards. MEL-SYD-JNB as a QF award (7319 miles) for 96000 points and then JNB-DUR as a BA award (309 miles) for 18000 points in business.

You'll notice these mileage amounts are different to what you have and that's because for ticketing it's the GDS mileage that is used which is what these mileage amounts are from.

 

[ozflier]

Ta for that.

 

[ozflier]

I am working on my OWA itinerary covering Africa.
I am a little confused over the rules re open jaws surface sectors and the number of transfers in one city.
I plan to travel

Day one fly SYD to JNB to Capetown. No stopover
Day four surface sector Capetown to JNB
Day six fly JNB to Victoria Falls
Day eight surface sector Livingstone to JNB
Day Eight fly JNB to DOHA

I have a feeling that this is inconsistent with the OWA rules
I would love to be wrong .
I ask the question as I just can,t get my head round the inter action of open jaws, surface sectors and max transfers.

I would be grateful for your advice.

Cheers

 

[madrooster]

I am working on my OWA itinerary covering Africa.
I am a little confused over the rules re open jaws surface sectors and the number of transfers in one city.
I plan to travel

Day one fly SYD to JNB to Capetown. No stopover
Day four surface sector Capetown to JNB
Day six fly JNB to Victoria Falls
Day eight surface sector Livingstone to JNB
Day Eight fly JNB to DOHA

I have a feeling that this is inconsistent with the OWA rules
I would love to be wrong .
I ask the question as I just can,t get my head round the inter action of open jaws, surface sectors and max transfers.

I would be grateful for your advice.

Cheers

SYD-JNB-CPT - 2 sectors, stop #1 in CPT, transfer 1 of 2 allowed at JNB
CPT-JNB surface - 1 sector
JNB-VFA - 1 sector, stop #2 in VFA
LVI-JNB surface - 1 sector <-- you can turn this into a flight and it won't affect your stop count
JNB-DOH - 1 sector, stop #3 in DOH

You can do 2 more stops and 10 more sectors.