Confused ....

[BD1959]

I've been watching my upcoming MEL/CNS like a hawk since Mrs BD and myself are heading up to celebrate a significant date and I've put an upgrade request in.

Over the last couple of days, fare availability has dropped to near zero. EF shows:

J1 C0 D0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 G0

On QF.com it's showing very limited Y-Flex and very limited J available - which almost matches the EF availability - but, the EF seat-map shows only 3 J seats allocated.


Now I can understand the majority of Y pax not assigning seats until late, but J pax? The EF Y seat-map pretty much mirrors what I see on EF so I'm assuming the J seat-map is accurate too.

Just seems strange that having open availability last week, down to near-zero this week, no-one has bothered to allocate their seat.

Thoughts?

Regards,

BD

 

[whughes3]

In my fairly extensive experience, this situation is quite common: it appears that many domestic J pax indeed do not bother pre-allocating seats (maybe because someone else is doing their bookings for them?).

 

[JessicaTam]

I would suggest seats that have yet to be chosen. Have a look when OLCI opens and it should start filling up.

 

[RichardMEL]

I've seen this kind of thing a fair bit. Almost always the J cabin fills. I think a lot of it is also the result of connecting passenger bookings and the like and/or seats reserved (eg the blocked seats in row 1) for deadheading crew and stuff.

You may yet get a surprise of UG but it seems unlikely given that load.

 

[BD1959]

I've seen this kind of thing a fair bit. Almost always the J cabin fills. I think a lot of it is also the result of connecting passenger bookings and the like and/or seats reserved (eg the blocked seats in row 1) for deadheading crew and stuff.

You may yet get a surprise of UG but it seems unlikely given that load.

The blocked seats in Row 1 I put down to the usual WP1 blocking until T-80. Given this appears as "taken" on the QF website, I'd have thought this would have spurred any non-status to book ... but then I was assuming that non-WP1 blocked seats are available to all-comers in J - maybe that's where I'm getting confused!

Is all but Row 3 blocked to non-status until T-80??

Regards,

BD

 

[eminere]

Is all but Row 3 blocked to non-status until T-80??

Yep, rows 1 and 2 are blocked to Gold and below until ~T-80.

 

[NZ_Flyer]

As an SG, Rows 1/2 are always blocked in Dom J until T-80. Not sure if Row 2 is open to WP and then everything for WP1/CL?

 

[kermatu]

Haven't had a huge experience of booking or changing seats within T-80 - but when I have, even as P1, I can't access blocked but unallocated (according to EF) row 1 seats. My assumption is row 1 is available to CLs and P1s but at T-80 it gets blocked to only CLs known to be travelling??

Certainly the CLs I know rarely allocate their seat and just assume they'll be row 1 when checked in (or don't actually care).

 

[aussiel]

As an SG, Rows 1/2 are always blocked in Dom J until T-80. Not sure if Row 2 is open to WP and then everything for WP1/CL?

Row 2 and back is available to WP from booking. Row 1 becomes available at T-80.

 

[pauly7]

In my fairly extensive experience, this situation is quite common: it appears that many domestic J pax indeed do not bother pre-allocating seats (maybe because someone else is doing their bookings for them?).

To be honest when I'm flying J domestically I almost never bother pre-allocating! Only get my seats selected when I'm forced up the back.

 

[RichardMEL]

The blocked seats in Row 1 I put down to the usual WP1 blocking until T-80. Given this appears as "taken" on the QF website, I'd have thought this would have spurred any non-status to book ... but then I was assuming that non-WP1 blocked seats are available to all-comers in J - maybe that's where I'm getting confused!

it's possible, but since I am WP1, and I see these blocks show up then it's something else IMHO. Maybe a CL, maybe blocked for some other reason (do we still have air marshals?).

I think we're talking two different sorts of 'blocks" - there's the ability for P1 to preallocate into row 1 at time of booking, vs a blocked seat(that may or may not actually be taken).

an example I saw the other day on a short dom sector in a 73H.

1A taken, 1C "blocked"

just before departure, the "block" disappeared on 1C but the seat showed as unallocated

at departure, 1C was occupied.


Is all but Row 3 blocked to non-status until T-80??

Regards,

BD[/QUOTE]

 

[whughes3]

If any row 1 seats are still showing as blocked after T-80, it is usually a sign that someone considered very important is travelling (eg. on one memorable occasion turned out to be a certain J. Howard seated next to me!).

 

[JessicaTam]

If any row 1 seats are still showing as blocked after T-80, it is usually a sign that someone considered very important is travelling (eg. on one memorable occasion turned out to be a certain J. Howard seated next to me!).

So who was he to take your shadow? The cheek of the man!

 

[BD1959]

If any row 1 seats are still showing as blocked after T-80, it is usually a sign that someone considered very important is travelling (eg. on one memorable occasion turned out to be a certain J. Howard seated next to me!).

They block seats for actors???



Regards,

BD

 

[RichardMEL]

If any row 1 seats are still showing as blocked after T-80, it is usually a sign that someone considered very important is travelling (eg. on one memorable occasion turned out to be a certain J. Howard seated next to me!).

this was exactly my thoughts!

With the flight I was on (I was in row 2) the block was there well post T-80 and only disappeared sometime in the last hour prior to departure.

It seemed that 1A and C swapped seats, for reasons that I don't quite understand, but I did not recognise either as anyone significant, and interestingly the crew seemed to fawn very much over a couple of older folks in row 2.

 

[whughes3]

So who was he to take your shadow? The cheek of the man!

That's exactly what I thought (though I recall he offered to swap seats with me: I had the aisle seat but prefer the window in 737 J).