EK cuts PER to double daily from July 2015

[mannej]

You've clearly not looked very hard then. Dusseldorf; Population well under a million. Milan. under 1.5 million. etc.

Barcelona?

 

[dajop]

You've clearly not looked very hard then. Dusseldorf; Population well under a million. Milan. under 1.5 million. etc.

Be careful here, wary ground. In Australia city population = metropolitan/urban area population. In other parts of the world that isn't necessarily the case. Milan has a city population of 1.5m, but is centre of an urban area of over 5m. Likewise Dusseldorf airport serves a huge population of over 10m, even though the city itself is fairly small. If you just look at what a lot of places refer to as city population, San Francisco with 850,000 people is smaller than Adelaide!

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

What's the distance between Perth and the closest other metropolitan area as compared to the cities mentioned?

 

[Daver6]

What's the distance between Perth and the closest other metropolitan area as compared to the cities mentioned?

Maybe 40km or so to Mandurah. Bunbury about 150km I think.

 

[kamchatsky]

Be careful here, wary ground. In Australia city population = metropolitan/urban area population. In other parts of the world that isn't necessarily the case. Milan has a city population of 1.5m, but is centre of an urban area of over 5m. Likewise Dusseldorf airport serves a huge population of over 10m, even though the city itself is fairly small. If you just look at what a lot of places refer to as city population, San Francisco with 850,000 people is smaller than Adelaide!

+1 on this.

Another example, City of Chicago has about 2.7 million people. Whereas Chicago Metropolitan area has approx 10 million people.

Chicago - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Chicago metropolitan area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[wandering_fred]

Remember that when the A380 is underpopulated, it can actually carry a reasonable amount of freight.

Given the loads I have seen on the CX A330s I wonder if PER will be the next Aussie destination to see their 77W? :shock: It would certainly increase the wondering component of why QF couldn't/can't make QFi work exPER.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

Maybe 40km or so to Mandurah. Bunbury about 150km I think.

You may want to look up the word 'metropolitan'.

 

[cory]

The official 2M ppl figure is taken from 'Greater Perth', which (correct me if i am wrong) is from about Butler in the north, foot of the hills to the east and just south of Rockingham to the south. Is mandurah included? It never used to be, but with the urban sprawl from rockingham to mandurah I suppose its all connected now. City of mandurah has almost 100k ppl in the district.

 

[exceladdict]

Remember that when the A380 is underpopulated, it can actually carry a reasonable amount of freight.

Given the loads I have seen on the CX A330s I wonder if PER will be the next Aussie destination to see their 77W? :shock: It would certainly increase the wondering component of why QF couldn't/can't make QFi work exPER.

Happy wandering

Fred

Cx have been advertising a bit around the place recently. Big billboard on great eastern highway near the airport.

That said so have EY, QR and EK.

 

[juddles]

..... In Australia city population = metropolitan/urban area population. In other parts of the world that isn't necessarily the case......!

this thread has fallen to splitting hairs.

On a global scale, Perth is just an insignificant pimple awkwardly perched on mainstream Australia´s bum.

I do understand and FEEL for the plight of those that have to live there. Hopefully one day Australia will be rich enough as a nation to rescue them all and bring them to the east coast.

 

[wandering_fred]

this thread has fallen to splitting hairs.

On a global scale, Perth is just an insignificant pimple awkwardly perched on mainstream Australia´s bum.

I do understand and FEEL for the plight of those that have to live there. Hopefully one day Australia will be rich enough as a nation to rescue them all and bring them to the east coast.

The way things are going at the moment, it seems that the east cost is more likely to have function on its own $$ as WA considers a Scotland-like separation from the federation... :shock:

I somehow doubt that EK EY and QR fly into PER as a public service. But then neither does QF, though different outcomes of the management thought processes are noted.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[dajop]

I somehow doubt that EK EY and QR fly into PER as a public service. But then neither does QF, though different outcomes of the management thought processes are noted.

Are those outcomes that different? QF, QR, EK and EY all fly to their hubs to connect passengers to key destinations elsewhere in their network. For QF that happens to be North America, NZ and regional NSW. For the ME3 that's Africa, ME and Europe. Note that none of the 4 serve PER-Asia particularly well, although one could argue NRT is feasible with QF, and India with the ME3.

 

[seanpodge]

Perth by itself is a decent sized city, but it doesn't have much chance of getting large amounts of passengers from surrounding areas like similar sized cities in Europe would. So that would count against it. That said, EK seem to know what they are doing.

On a slight tangent, when SQ introduced the A380 to PEK (not exactly a small town airport!), they reduced service from 4 flights to 3 flights daily, dropping an A330 service. I quite liked that service because it left at 1:15 am which made connecting to it very easy and the 2-4-2 layout in Y was quite nice.

We are also more permanently getting screwed on GST revenue with only 35% being paid to us to keep you Easterners subsidised.

Just think of it as paying back the massive commonwealth subsidies WA got for the vast majority of the first 105-110 years of federation.

Honestly, if iron prices keep heading south, there could be one state that looks very stupid very soon if they change the GST distribution formula.

 

[clazman]

We forgot to mention the Impartial AFL system

 

[exceladdict]

We forgot to mention the Impartial AFL system

And the cricket final.

 

[Dr_Fliptop]

Are those outcomes that different? QF, QR, EK and EY all fly to their hubs to connect passengers to key destinations elsewhere in their network. For QF that happens to be North America, NZ and regional NSW. For the ME3 that's Africa, ME and Europe. Note that none of the 4 serve PER-Asia particularly well, although one could argue NRT is feasible with QF, and India with the ME3.

It wasn't that long ago that Perth was a signficant international hub for Qantas.

I have flown PER-SIN-CDG on a 747 no less. PER-JNB, PER-HKG, PER-SIN.

Never flew these, but also had PER-DPS, PER-NRT, PER-BKK, PER-CGK and more.

Where can I fly now? Nowhere!

 

[wandering_fred]

It wasn't that long ago that Perth was a signficant international hub for Qantas.

I have flown PER-SIN-CDG on a 747 no less. PER-JNB, PER-HKG, PER-SIN.

Never flew these, but also had PER-DPS, PER-NRT, PER-BKK, PER-CGK and more.

Where can I fly now? Nowhere!

I will add having flown QF on DPS-PER(connection only) PER-HKG-PER, PER-NRT and PER-SIN-PER.

At least you got the nowhere description correct when you think about flights to SYD MEL BNE and ADL :shock::mrgreen:

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Dr_Fliptop]

I will add having flown QF on DPS-PER(connection only) PER-HKG-PER, PER-NRT and PER-SIN-PER.

At least you got the nowhere description correct when you think about flights to SYD MEL BNE and ADL :shock::mrgreen:

Happy wandering

Fred

That's correct Fred - MEL, SYD, BNE are not destinations - merely international transit hubs.

 

[ChrisDPom]

Let's set our own country up.

We we can pass in the construction that any Airline using PER must have their lounge open at all times in case someone wants to use it. Fines if closed when a flight is due out (double fine if it is Jetstar going to our new capital).

Have a chat with Indonesia and ask them if we can borrow Bali as our new capital (would at least mean some of our fellow countrymen visit the capital unlike that one they have in the Eastern States in the middle of nowhere).

Flag can a wheatsheaf on a yellow background (the yellow being hi-vis yellow).

Need some help on the name of our National Airline and new country name as I had an 13 hour retirement party last night and not firing on all cylinders today.

Chris

 

[jukebox333]

That would require media coverage. Do they even show WA stuff on national TV?

We sure as hell don't get much broadcast from the East Coast "live".....