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Frogger just beat me to it... I read through all 20 pages thinking why hasn't anyone mentioned affect and effect !

For me, the two main offences I see are: their/they're/there and your/you're. As they say, punctuation is "the difference between knowing your cough, and knowing you're cough".

May I be indulged to add that irony (and what is ironic) is probably not what you have been led to believe. Most of the things people say are ironic aren't, the're unfortunate. Almost everything in Alanis Morrisett's song is not actually ironic. The conclusion of Romeo and Juliet is tragically ironic because he kills himself believing she is dead unable to live without her, when ironically, she feigns death to be with him (actually, but not ironically, Shakespeare understood how to use English effectively).

OzEire

ps. this thread is for English pedantry, all that is left for me to say is "pog mo thoin"
 
Frogger just beat me to it... I read through all 20 pages thinking why hasn't anyone mentioned affect and effect !

It's been mentioned :)

In a Singaporean movie where one of the main characters struggles with English, this pair of words was mentioned twice.

"I would like to resign with affect...with effect... [decides] with affect..."

"...to make the company more...'affective'?! It's meant to be 'effective'...."
 
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A fitting joke (given before):

Student: "Miss, I ain't got a pencil."
Teacher: "No, not 'ain't', 'haven't'! I haven't got a pencil! You haven't got a pencil! They haven't got a pencil!"
Student: "Wow! What happened to all the pencils?"
 
Frogger just beat me to it... I read through all 20 pages thinking why hasn't anyone mentioned affect and effect !

For me, the two main offences I see are: their/they're/there and your/you're. As they say, punctuation is "the difference between knowing your cough, and knowing you're cough".

May I be indulged to add that irony (and what is ironic) is probably not what you have been led to believe. Most of the things people say are ironic aren't, the're unfortunate. Almost everything in Alanis Morrisett's song is not actually ironic. The conclusion of Romeo and Juliet is tragically ironic because he kills himself believing she is dead unable to live without her, when ironically, she feigns death to be with him (actually, but not ironically, Shakespeare understood how to use English effectively).

OzEire

ps. this thread is for English pedantry, all that is left for me to say is "pog mo thoin"

You need check out the oatmeals take on irony. That concludes that while those things are just misfortune, someone pointed that out is wrong regardless of being correct.

I didn't really understand their point. Perhaps it was ironic.
 
You need check out the oatmeals take on irony. That concludes that while those things are just misfortune, someone pointed that out is wrong regardless of being correct.

I didn't really understand their point. Perhaps it was ironic.

Or ironical.
 
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You need check out the oatmeals take on irony. That concludes that while those things are just misfortune, someone pointed that out is wrong regardless of being correct.

I didn't really understand their point. Perhaps it was ironic.

Alanis is that you?
 

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