Qantas really testing the market! SYD-MEL now $145 standard red e-deal!

[markis10]

I don't believe luck would come into it. Seems pretty simple to me. Like serfty I would restructure my situation and ensure that the major part of my journey, i.e. flight, was tax deductible. It is, I suspect, easier for certain roles than others.

The luck part comes in the audit and subsequent view on how the law applies, with the ITA being such a mess that often precedents just add more uncertainty, ie

http://www.buseco.monash.edu.au/blt/jat/vol10-issue2-07-boccabella.pdf

 

[medhead]

Good luck with that, its expressly stated in the act that travel between two workplaces is only for work so long as you dont reside there:


http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/itaa1997240/s25.100.html

The concept that a place of residence could also be a workplace was tested in the high court in 2001, in Federal Commissioner of Taxation v Payne, to the ATOs favor. In order to make a claim, you need to show that work activity was started before the travel ( per the first limb of s.8.1 of the ITA), as evidenced in a prior court case of Luney v Commissioner of Taxation (1958) which would be most applicable in JohnKs scenario. That case found that travel occuring between the intervals of work rather than during the engagement of work made it prepartory and thus a private expense.

That would only apply if you're doing work for the same employer at home and then traveling to their office. No luck required if doing work for one employer at home and then traveling to the office of another employer.

 

[markis10]

That would only apply if you're doing work for the same employer at home and then traveling to their office. No luck required if doing work for one employer at home and then traveling to the office of another employer.

Yep, JohnKs scenario exactly if I am not mistaken..

 

[TonyHancock]

The luck part comes in the audit and subsequent view on how the law applies, with the ITA being such a mess that often precedents just add more uncertainty, ie

http://www.buseco.monash.edu.au/blt/jat/vol10-issue2-07-boccabella.pdf

Luck is not involved at all. What is involved is complying with the law. In some professions/roles it is easier to to ensure the longer part of the journey is tax deductible. For me it would be particularly easy. There would certainly be no requirement for luck.

 

[medhead]

Yep, JohnKs scenario exactly if I am not mistaken..

I guess you missed the bit about restructuring the arrangement. I understood that a change was being suggested not maintaining the status quo. That would explain why the information you're presenting isn't really useful to what is being discussed.

 

[JohnK]

That would only apply if you're doing work for the same employer at home and then traveling to their office. No luck required if doing work for one employer at home and then traveling to the office of another employer.

And in my situation that is not possible. I do not have another employer. I do not have an office.

My accountant has spoken to the ATO at length regarding my situation. The only way it would have been possible to claim anything is from current employer and they couldn't care less.

 

[medhead]

And in my situation that is not possible. I do not have another employer. I do not have an office.

My accountant has spoken to the ATO at length regarding my situation. The only way it would have been possible to claim anything is from current employer and they couldn't care less.

The suggestion was to change your situation.

 

[JohnK]

The suggestion was to change your situation.

It is too difficult.

 

[medhead]

It is too difficult.

Yes, inertia is hard to overcome.

 

[love_the_life]

Yes, inertia is hard to overcome.

That's assuming it is an easy situation - sometimes inertia has nothing to do with it.

 

[medhead]

That's assuming it is an easy situation - sometimes inertia has nothing to do with it.

What? Not at all. Inertia (either physical or otherwise) is involved in all change.

Inertia is the resistance of any physical object to any change in its state of motion (including a change in direction).

 

[love_the_life]

What? Not at all. Inertia (either physical or otherwise) is involved in all change.

Methinks you are splitting hairs :mrgreen:

 

[JohnK]

Yes, inertia is hard to overcome.

Irrelevant.

 

[Cool Cat Phil]

This still isn't as bad as it's been ex Canberra for the last several years - $149 is now the standard for CBR-SYD and $169 for CBR-MEL, even though the flights are shorter...

Poor old Canberra does get a raw deal for its domestic airfares. Put a LCC into the Canberra market & that would change things a bit. Not going to happen in the short term I suspect.

 

[openseat]

Poor old Canberra does get a raw deal for its domestic airfares. Put a LCC into the Canberra market & that would change things a bit. Not going to happen in the short term I suspect.

Tiger gave it a go but couldn't survive.

 

[medhead]

Irrelevant.

Haha If you say so.

All situations can be changed. You are clearly unhappy with your situation based on the numerous complaints. You refuse to change your situation. Inertia is entirely relevant when presented with those facts.

Unless you just like to complain? But I would never assume that about anyone.

 

[JohnK]

Haha If you say so.

All situations can be changed. You are clearly unhappy with your situation based on the numerous complaints. You refuse to change your situation. Inertia is entirely relevant when presented with those facts.

The situation cannot be changed. Trust me.

I am thankful I have a job and paid well for it. The company is advertising to hire more people. It looks they will hire more people and pay them half what they are paying me. Unfortunately though they will be lucky if they get 1/4 of the productivity in return. It is not about productivity. It is all about growing the empire to feel important. You know the saying about paying peanuts?

I can do without the hassle to try and save a few thousand a year. I can save that easily by taking less flights and not eating out which I don't do anyway.

 

[ketsuzei]

Perhaps you could open a JohnK-branded lounge in Sydney, exclude sub-Sunday-best short-cutting status-chasing mof_s, and claim the cost of commuting from there? At least two birds...