Qantas and China Eastern announce joint venture (JSA)

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Qantas and China Eastern today announced a new joint venture, marking the start of a deeper level of commercial cooperation on flights between Australia and China.
The airlines will now submit an application for authorisation to Australian and Chinese regulators. Subject to regulatory approval, it is anticipated that the joint agreement will commence in mid-2015.
The five year agreement was signed today by Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce and China Eastern Chairman Liu Shaoyong at Parliament House, in a ceremony attended by Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott and President of the People’s Republic of China Xi Jinping.
Under the agreement, the airlines will deliver substantial benefits for customers and support the growing trade, tourism and corporate travel links between Australia and China. It is designed to complement the Qantas-Emirates partnership for Europe, Middle East and North Africa and the Qantas-American Airlines partnership for the US.
Through the new partnership, the airlines hope to ultimately open up new routes between Australia and mainland China, such as between Brisbane and Perth to Shanghai.
A key benefit of the agreement will be the co-location of both carriers’ operations in Terminal 1 at Shanghai International Airport, which will cut transit times by about an hour, open up a better range of onward connections and provide more choice for customers.
Qantas CEO Alan Joyce said the airline was pleased to build on its existing codeshare relationship with China Eastern, which has been so successful with Qantas customers since 2008.
“We’re looking forward to working more closely with China Eastern to bring together our complementary networks and enhance the options for the increasing number of Qantas customers travelling to Shanghai and beyond,” said Mr Joyce.
“Coordination means the opportunity to improve schedules and connection times, and to deliver improved products such as a joint lounge and streamlined check-in facilities in Shanghai. It will be a win for our customers and, by making it easier for Chinese travellers to visit Australia, a win for trade and tourism”.
In welcoming the agreement, China Eastern Chairman Liu Shaoyong said “Australia is one of the most important tourist destinations and trade markets for China, and Qantas is the key partner for China Eastern in Australia.”
“It’s important for us to strengthen the cooperation with Qantas to provide better, more convenient travel products for passengers between the two countries,” said Chairman Liu.
Air services between Australia and China have been identified as critical to the ongoing development of strong economic ties between the two countries. China is now Australia's largest two-way trading partner in goods and services, its largest goods export destination and its largest source of merchandise imports. China is Australia’s most valuable inbound tourism market – projected to contribute up to $9 billion annually to the Australian economy by 2020.


http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/qantas-and-china-eastern-deepen-ties-with-joint-venture
 
Sounds like a good plan, what are china eastern like to fly?
 
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Through the new partnership, the airlines hope to ultimately open up new routes between Australia and mainland China, such as between Brisbane and Perth to Shanghai.[/COLOR][/COLOR]

Via SYD.......?
 
Looks like the SYD-PVG route on QF metal will now be easy for AJ to discontinue since SYD/MEL/BNE-PVG can now be codeshared on MU metal.
 
Looks like the SYD-PVG route on QF metal will now be easy for AJ to discontinue since SYD/MEL/BNE-PVG can now be codeshared on MU metal.

Given PVG is a major Commercial hub, would it be wise for QF to pull out of there?

Anyone flowing on the route recently to comment on loading?
 
Why do they keep making deals with airlines that aren't in oneworld?
What's wrong with forming a JSA with JL?
 
Why do they keep making deals with airlines that aren't in oneworld?
What's wrong with forming a JSA with JL?

They did, it's called Jetstar Japan; and what a shining light of corporate hubris it is.
From the ubiquitous wiki:
For the year ending June 30, 2013 Jetstar Japan earned total revenue of JPY 12.8 billion and made a loss of JPY 8.8 billion.
For the year ending June 30, 2014 Jetstar Japan's total revenue increase to JPY 29.1 billion but its loss also increased to JPY 11.1 billion.
 
Sounds like a good plan, what are china eastern like to fly?

My wife recently flew with them and nominates the return flight to Sydney as her worst ever. This from someone who has flown Tiger, Ryanair, and lots of discount economy flights to the UK. To add insult to injury the flight was in a non-earning class!
 
Why do they keep making deals with airlines that aren't in oneworld?
What's wrong with forming a JSA with JL?

Maybe because the Chinese market is just a bit more important then the Japanese.
 
QF isn't pulling out of PVG just yet.The announcement does say it will co-locate in Terminal 1 with MU.
 
QF isn't pulling out of PVG just yet.The announcement does say it will co-locate in Terminal 1 with MU.
I assume they would also use the MU lounge?

Currently from oneworld, MH, UL, AA, BA, CX/KA, AY, JL, QF and QR service PVG.
MH, UL and JL are in T1. JL uses its own lounge, MH and UL use MU's.
AA, BA, CX/KA and AY use the CX lounge in T2 and QF and QR currently use the Shanghai Airport VIP Lounge in T2.
 
MU has some excellent business class fares ex Australia. I hope this cooperation doesn't see those fares rise to QF levels across the board.
 
The QF codeshare will be priced at QF rates.And to get SCs you will need to be on the QF codeshare.
So you will be able to fly to Europe on EK or MU all the way and if on QF codeshare you will get 280 SCs in J.
But dare to fly on QF's OW partners and you will only get 140 SCs.Definitely simpler and fairer.

However there will be a price to pay.Decision has been made.We will still buy our J OW fares for 2 more years.This will give mrsdrron LTG so will always have lounge access when flying domestically in the future.
For international as we fly J it will be BFOD.Means QF will get zilch.
 
In my opinion, the two airlines are significantly different in terms of quality. I wonder what the joint venture will look like
 
In my opinion, the two airlines are significantly different in terms of quality. I wonder what the joint venture will look like

Indeed. How many times have we seen AFFers complain "I booked Qantas and was put on a horrible Emirates flight" or vice versa? And that's with EK and QF both offering a comparable (relatively good) product.

Shall we stock up on some popcorn?
 
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