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Didn't the HBA lounge get an upgrade just prior to Covid. They installed a toastie machine. You lot are so ungrateful
So Port Headland gets a new “International” airport before Hobart…..Likely because when I was last in PHE it was a steel frame with no walls.
Has been under construction as part of the airports re-development/expansion.
Qantas can fix SYD overnight - just upgrade the food. Just slam a Spice Bar like offering in the middle like MEL and mission accomplished. If they're feeling generous they can spruce up the flooring and furniture.
The worst lounge is definitely HBA but that can't be fixed short of demolishing the whole terminal and starting again.
Perhaps I am disconnected from reality, but having visited the SYD lounge showers a few times, I fail to see what is disgusting about them. They tend to be clean (albeit spartan) and there is decent hot water pressure. If there is one substantial complaint I have about the showers it's the lack of ventilation, which if you are taking a steamy shower can be frustrating. That being said, one nice touch that I see Lufthansa, Emirates and others make is the provision of soap and shampoo, combs and other necessities for taking a shower. In particular I distinctly remember Lufthansa lounges in Germany feature L'Occitane toiletries.& the Showers.. They are disgusting
So I guess you can say aside from Perth, Western Australia has a clean sweep of the worst QF lounges?Similar to BME.
Surprised no one has mentioned PHE, makes HBA look wonderful.
So I guess you can say aside from Perth, Western Australia has a clean sweep of the worst QF lounges?
Could the presence of travellers in high-vis jackets at PHE be the reason why this dire situation is being rectified faster than at HBA?On the contrary, the majority are pretty good (KTA one of the best regional lounges), only PHE lets the side down - which is being rectified
Could the presence of travellers in high-vis jackets at PHE be the reason why this dire situation is being rectified faster than at HBA?
Pity the powers that be didn't insist that Schipol had to invest money into the airport as a condition for them buying the airport!More to do with the $45m airport redevelopment which was a condition of the new airport lease in 2016.
Perhaps I am disconnected from reality, but having visited the SYD lounge showers a few times, I fail to see what is disgusting about them. They tend to be clean (albeit spartan) and there is decent hot water pressure. If there is one substantial complaint I have about the showers it's the lack of ventilation, which if you are taking a steamy shower can be frustrating. That being said, one nice touch that I see Lufthansa, Emirates and others make is the provision of soap and shampoo, combs and other necessities for taking a shower. In particular I distinctly remember Lufthansa lounges in Germany feature L'Occitane toiletries.
-RooFlyer88
Didn't the HBA lounge get an upgrade just prior to Covid. They installed a toastie machine. You lot are so ungrateful
sandwich press also removed?
That jar is the only redeeming feature of the HBA loungeOh, God! Say it ain't true! Not the sandwich press?? It'll be the jar of Liquorice Allsorts next!
When I've visited they seemed clean. Then again my definition of clean and your definition of clean may differ. In terms of quantity of showers I think there are 2 or 3 in each of the lounges which isn't too bad when compared to domestic lounges in other regions like North America (i.e. 0 for most US domestic lounges, 2 at some Air Canada domestic lounges). If anything, I'm quite pleased at the consistency of finding showers at Qantas domestic lounges. Even in small cities where one would not expect there to be a shower like TSV or CNS, there are some!They're not proactively cleaned after each use and there's not enough of them either.
Not to go too off topic, but the reason why I started this thread was passengers have choices when travelling out of an international terminal in Australia. Sydney has like half a dozen lounges I can access between my QF Gold status and AmEx Platinum card. The same cannot be said for domestic travel where it is typically limited to airline operated lounges that require you to fly the airline to access the lounge. For many of us this comes down to a choice: do we put our loyalty with Qantas (which has a strong route network and excellent lounge coverage) or Virgin (which whilst smaller in every respect tends to do a better job at things like service and lounges).Since MEL and SYD J international lounges were mentioned - do we define the ADL QC as the "worst" international J lounge in Oz? just asking'
I also vote MEL J international (a.k.a. the Dungeon) as a really poor place. This one time, not on the way to band camp, I was flying MH on >midnight flight. I was in QF F but they closed around 11 iirc and actually apologised to me to say sorry you'll have to go down to the dungeon LOL.... and it was fairly dire. Luckily I had no need of the slop for food and very average drink selection down there thanks to the F lounge.
Having said that, the NZ lounge, which is actually the level below the dungeon is pleasant. It has a few windows so some light (you get to see out under air bridges to Gates 9/11 iirc so I recall several belly views of QF 380's over the years) and it's a smallish, but quite pleasant experience.
You laugh but these little things add up! Aside from the fact that Melbourne is a more modern lounge, one key thing that clinches it for me when I think of the Melbourne Qantas pub are the candies. Jelly beans, Swedish berries, you name it! It almost makes up for the fact that the Melbourne Qantas pub offers no apron views!Oh, God! Say it ain't true! Not the sandwich press?? It'll be the jar of Liquorice Allsorts next!
When I've visited they seemed clean. Then again my definition of clean and your definition of clean may differ. In terms of quantity of showers I think there are 2 or 3 in each of the lounges which isn't too bad when compared to domestic lounges in other regions like North America (i.e. 0 for most US domestic lounges, 2 at some Air Canada domestic lounges). If anything, I'm quite pleased at the consistency of finding showers at Qantas domestic lounges. Even in small cities where one would not expect there to be a shower like TSV or CNS, there are some!
-RooFlyer88
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What would be a sufficient number of showers for Qantas to have at a major airport like MEL or SYD. 6? 12? Keep in mind too, for every square foot of space dedicated to showers that means fewer square feet for travellers to sit and wait for their next flight. An alternative solution could be a booking system where passengers sign up for specific slots they want to use the shower as KLM does in their Crown lounge. That way lounge attendants can ensure the showers are cleaned and available for those who need it. I would also argue too that a passenger making an international to domestic connection should have higher priority over someone with just a domestic flight.By clean I meant someone has come in and at the very least wiped it down between uses.
As for how many showers a US lounge may or may not have, that's pretty irrelevant. The fact is, three showers in the SYD J lounge isn't sufficient. In the mornings you have plane loads of international QF flights arriving from OS with pax connecting to domestic flights. Three showers just can't cope with the numbers wanting a shower.
elly beans, Swedish berries, you name it! It
What would be a sufficient number of showers for Qantas to have at a major airport like MEL or SYD. 6? 12? Keep in mind too, for every square foot of space dedicated to showers that means fewer square feet for travellers to sit and wait for their next flight. An alternative solution could be a booking system where passengers sign up for specific slots they want to use the shower as KLM does in their Crown lounge. That way lounge attendants can ensure the showers are cleaned and available for those who need it. I would also argue too that a passenger making an international to domestic connection should have higher priority over someone with just a domestic flight.
Agreed.. I can't tell you how many times I've had to wait coming back from LA or Jakarta for one to free up..I don't know. I don't have visibility into the numbers nor is it my job to plan this stuff for QF. All I do know is that three is not sufficient.
Since MEL and SYD J international lounges were mentioned - do we define the ADL QC as the "worst" international J lounge in Oz? just asking'