Woolworths reviewing partnership with Qantas Frequent Flyer.

[Pleb Status]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Reading the article, and if reported correctly, WW and QF did not even try to deny the break up rumours. So I would say the only thing left to announce now is when the last day will be to earn QF points on EDR. My guess is 31 December 2015.

 

[PLANT]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Or it will be Etihad like and become 1:0.4 conversion?

 

[Dr Ralph]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Will the Caltex woolies not take a WISH card bought in WW?

They take them.

 

[coles525]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Just saw the story on 9 news Melbourne!

Woolies thinking of ditching qff.

 

[Bodie]

Mrs Bodie and I are lucky we have both Coles and Woolies at our local shopping centre. Like others, We have both flybuys and Everyday Rewards. We shop at both and look at specials each week especially for big ticket items like laundry and cleaning products, if I can save 50% off those items I will. I use flybuys for the discounts and when get about 10000 points get the $50 dollar voucher. I had look at my qantas account and our woolies shopping and fuel accounts for 10% of our qantas ff account.

If this ends, we wont change our habits, still check for savings at both stores and use whatever changes are made to everyday rewards, to our advantage. Still use qff and velocity linked credit cards for payments.

 

[coles525]

Short story on 9 news melbourne saying qff may be ditched bt woolies.

 

[mannej]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Or failing that, devalue to say, 0.4 points per $

Having said that, the $30 threshold on QF point earn makes my smaller shops almost worthless, unlike Flybuys

Sounds like the good old days of flybuys - 2pts for every $5 spent from memory.

 

[kermatu]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

The Coles / Etihad deal looks good on first blush. Woolies need to match or could be in some trouble, at
least from AFFers.

 

[cmon0005]

I wonder how much of this is just to get QFF to give a lower rate to woolies, if QFF think they are going to loose a big revenue stream?

 

[exceladdict]

Woolworths doesn't seem to be doing its core business rather well?

And... speak of the devil, look what just came into my inbox?

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Isn't this just a reskin of their existing "everyday low prices" promotion? Getting sick of the same thing with a different strapline (cough, simpler and fairer).

 

[PLANT]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Got the following off WHIRLPOOL:
Woolies replacing the everyday rewards card with Woolworths rewards cards next week, instead of earning points you'll earn Woolworths dollars which can be redeemed in your next transaction (takes it off your transaction).

You'll continue to earn points until the end of the year then you'll have to get your Qantas frequent flyer points seperately after that.

In terms of financials, Woolworths was paying for the points that customers were earning and it is fairly profitable for Qantas but looks like this is the strategy wow is moving ahead with for its rewards program.

 

[JohnK]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Nothing is going change.

Mum will continue to shop at Woolworths and I will continue to shop at Woolworths, Coles and IGA depending on who has what little I need on special.

The QFF points were a bonus not reason we shopped at Woolworths.

 

[nickfromeastryde]

I guess it depends on what you buy, and also, more importantly, where you're located.

I have done the trolley by trolley comparison at my local Coles and Woolworths (in regional Qld) - and based on my personal experience, Coles came in about 20% cheaper.

seems highly unlikely such a difference, what did you do, buy only what was on special at Coles

 

[SpudOz]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Email in from Qantas:

As a valued Frequent Flyer member we wanted to give you an update on the partnership between Qantas and Woolworths. Woolworths and Qantas Frequent Flyer have been in partnership for more than six years. We are working together to ensure how, as a loyal member of Qantas Frequent Flyer and a Woolworths shopper, you will continue to get the best value from the rewards program. We look forward to sharing further updates with you. Yours sincerely The Qantas Frequent Flyer Team

An email that said nothing (and everything)

 

[drross]

just had email from Qantas re ongoing discussions with woolies. sounded vaguely positive

 

[JessicaTam]

Threads merged.

 

[burmans]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

While I agree the depreciation in the AUD has helped tourism, the question about inbound tourism is from where? Europe - most economies dead/moribund, USA - recovering slowly, China - bursting real estate bubble and government crackdowns on corruption, Japan - still dead, Middle East - low oil price crunch, India Malaysia and South Korea - all have promise but QF doesn't fly there, other parts of SE Asia - recovering but tonnes of LCC competitors in the area and too much capacity already.

Well, any discussion on economies has to be in comparison to what has been. I don't disagree that economies are not brilliant but in most case they haven't been brilliant for ages. The Australian economy has not really been great for years but that didn't stop us travelling when the exchange rate was good, the same applies for others. Personally would suggest the world economy is not great but better than some believe, the US economy is growing (not boom but growing) and personally I think Europe has bottomed. The last QF results was pretty amazing in my opinion and it's not the strength of the OZ economy driving it!

 

[trippin_the_rift]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Got the following off WHIRLPOOL:
Woolies replacing the everyday rewards card with Woolworths rewards cards next week, instead of earning points you'll earn Woolworths dollars which can be redeemed in your next transaction (takes it off your transaction).

You'll continue to earn points until the end of the year then you'll have to get your Qantas frequent flyer points seperately after that.

In terms of financials, Woolworths was paying for the points that customers were earning and it is fairly profitable for Qantas but looks like this is the strategy wow is moving ahead with for its rewards program.

Sounds about right. QFF to remain but you'll have to manually transfer points likely in chunks of 5,000 and with an expiry so there remains breakage on the WOW end. This will keep a lot of cash in woolworths rather than sending it off to QFF. Clearly this is a big blow to Qantas. First Optus, now this.

They're going to have a tough time convincing big business to do similar deals. Not like they can refer to Optus and WOW as sustainable case studies for increasing brand loyalty or spend. QFF is likely having talks internally about turning it into a coalition program in a land grab opportunity... I read a good article recently about this on Linkedin: http://bit.ly/1OKmnVk

 

[Princess Fiona]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

I'm obviously in a minority of 1

I'd continue shopping at Woollies since our local is far superior to Coles AND I can still buy brands at Woollies that Coles has long stopped stocking.

Regards,

BD

I stopped shopping at Coles and switched to Woolies long before the advent of EDR.
The reason for this is that I bought a packet of frozen chips from my local Coles once and when I got home discovered that they had a Best Before date of Aug 2007.
Problem was that I bought them in Jan 2008 :shock:

 

[eastwest101]

Re: Woolworths rethinking Qantas - or a slow news day

Got the following off WHIRLPOOL:

In terms of financials, Woolworths was paying for the points that customers were earning and it is fairly profitable for Qantas but looks like this is the strategy wow is moving ahead with for its rewards program.

Its just speculation at the moment but if true and the arrangement is as described above then it would seem to be that Woolworths management have decided to look after Woolworths shareholders, not Qantas shareholders. Which is fair enough - its their role to do so.