Why is the QF EK alliance such a joke?

[sudoer]

Air Tahiti Nui earns full SC’s if booked on a QF code

Also Air NZ soon!

 

[justinbrett]

I am painfully aware they are not OW... Tin pot, Alaska, Iberia, Etc..

Iberia merged with BA, a founding member of OW, so they are effectively one airline with two brands. It's also one of the oldest airlines in the world, being established in 1927. They carried 19 million pax in 2017, making them about 50% larger than Air Zealand. Hardly a "Tin Pot" airline.

As for Alaksa - you know despite the name, they're based in Seattle, not Alaska right? A bit like Qantas and QLD/NT. They have about 45 million pax per year which is roughly the same as Qantas and Air Canada.

Both are full service airlines, for what you'd expect in continental Europe and the US respectively.

As for QF/EK, I think QF pulling out of DXB and EK pulling out of TT is more of a truce than an alliance. Despite the big words neither's actions demonstrate a commitment to the other. QF knows its never going to have the one stop European coverage that EK gives and figures it can at least get a piece of the pie, while trying to incentivise PAX flying via PER/SIN-LHR as much as possible. EK is happy for the extra business. .

 

[rikkitikkitavi]

Iberia merged with BA, a founding member of OW, so they are effectively one airline with two brands. It's also one of the oldest airlines in the world, being established in 1927. They carried 19 million pax in 2017, making them about 50% larger than Air Zealand. Hardly a "Tin Pot" airline.

As for Alaksa - you know despite the name, they're based in Seattle, not Alaska right? A bit like Qantas and QLD/NT. They have about 45 million pax per year which is roughly the same as Qantas and Air Canada.

Both are full service airlines, for what you'd expect in continental Europe and the US respectively.

As for QF/EK, I think QF pulling out of DXB and EK pulling out of TT is more of a truce than an alliance. Despite the big words neither's actions demonstrate a commitment to the other. QF knows its never going to have the one stop European coverage that EK gives and figures it can at least get a piece of the pie, while trying to incentivise PAX flying via PER/SIN-LHR as much as possible. EK is happy for the extra business. .

Well I flew them, not their wiki entry, they some ripped an antler suitcase (a real suitcase, no one makes them anymore except for super expensive custom jobs) in half somehow and lost some of the luggage, suitcase wasn’t replaced, the plane was old with no IFE, this was 7 years ago so maybe better now.

Again I flew Alaska a few years ago, I find Kenya Airlines much better. Didn’t know they were Seattle based, would think it would be a much slicker show. As for Air Canada, I’ll take a berth on freighter instead...

 

[bosox76]

I flew them about six years ago from LAX to YVR lounge was awful and plane ancient, but things must have changed.

Only read to this point so far but as someone who lived in YVR and flew AS regularly I’d have to say that I never had a bad flight with them. Sure the lounges in LAX and YVR aren’t anything to write home about but the inflight experience is no worse than anything else in NA including AA.

 

[justinbrett]

Well I flew them, not their wiki entry, they some ripped an antler suitcase (a real suitcase, no one makes them anymore except for super expensive custom jobs) in half somehow and lost some of the luggage, suitcase wasn’t replaced, the plane was old with no IFE, this was 7 years ago so maybe better now.

Again I flew Alaska a few years ago, I find Kenya Airlines much better. Didn’t know they were Seattle based, would think it would be a much slicker show. As for Air Canada, I’ll take a berth on freighter instead...

I flew them three times last year. I thought they were fine.

Anyone can have a bad experience on any airline, doesn’t mean the airline is bad.