What's your Uber experience?

I do love that in the middle of nowhere (like this afternoon), rather than trying to find a taxi rank, I can pull out my phone, request an Uber and it shows up to where I am. Semi-peak traffic gave no taxis in the 8 minutes that I waited. Plus I knew where he was and it was a really nice car. Thanks Gerhard! Uber rocks and this is why I don't miss the "hit and miss" with taxis (driver speaking English, knowing the way etc)
 
And they spend huge amounts of money around the world in multiple countries in high level court actions trying to avoid paying any tax whatsoever - just wonderful corporate citizens.

Seems to be the new world order... big American corporations who hide money offshore and exploit those who are desperate for the money.
 
Seems to be the new world order... big American corporations who hide money offshore and exploit those who are desperate for the money.

I entirely agree. Convenient though for the pax and cheap, even if the driver goes hungry. I guess we just make our choice. The only thing worse would be a monopoly.
 
I entirely agree. Convenient though for the pax and cheap, even if the driver goes hungry. I guess we just make our choice.
There it is in a nut shell - it's cheap and convenient with direct pmt - I choose not to tell the poor silly driver he would be way better off stacking supermarket shelves rather than driving his car into the ground.
 
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There it is in a nut shell - it's cheap and convenient with direct pmt - I choose not to tell the poor silly driver he would be way better off stacking supermarket shelves rather than driving his car into the ground.
Financially, sure. But there are different forms of wealth.
 
There it is in a nut shell - it's cheap and convenient with direct pmt - I choose not to tell the poor silly driver he would be way better off stacking supermarket shelves rather than driving his car into the ground.

Describe "driving it into the ground". I only ask because it occurs to me that mileage on a car isn't quite as important any more.
An uber driver needs a car to be a certain age or lower in order to be able to drive, the car needs to pass roadworthy checks, and spot checks by Qld transport inspectors, they are also encouraged through a combination of pax rating and uber recommendations to keep their cars clean both inside and out.
In my experience, many private drivers (no, not all) don't keep their cars as clean as they might otherwise could, and as we all know, a neglected vehicle ages and deteriorates more quickly than a well maintained vehicle. Uber drivers are well aware of all these issues , well in my experience the ones I have met are , and as such keep their vehicles in good working order.
The other thing many people forget is that they are driving a car they already need, the difference is now a range of tax (and income) benefits they didn't have before.
I haven't done any in depth analysis on this , but I would argue that ride sharing would ultimately put the driver in a better position, rather than a worse position than someone who doesn't enjoy the tax advantages and may not be as attentive to maintenance and cleanliness as the Uber driver would potentially be. I suppose only time will tell.
I have always maintained that I was better off as a self employed individual, because my car costs were much lower than someone who didn't have my tax advantages.
I have always kept my cars (if purchased new) from 5-7 years, sometimes longer.
My current batch of cars are approaching 5 years use from new, and I can't see us replacing them anytime soon. And they get a reasonable amount of use in the business.
So I guess in comparison to a suburban car owner who may even commute by public transport to work, driving uber would be the equivalent of driving their car into the ground.
I leave you with this story about an uber driver with a VERY long commute to work and back.
He made a decision to live further out of the city, for life style reasons, and this meant a commute of longer than 90 minutes each way. So he drives uber , he sets his destination filter on to drive to and from work, and in the morning leaves a little earlier, he doesn't always get a fare but he receives enough to subsidise his commuting costs, and has someone different to talk to on the way to work, the afternoon run is more productive as there are a greater number leaving the city from his location than he gets in the morning run.
This is for my money the real advantage of ride sharing, and probably closer to its purest form.
 
Describe "driving it into the ground".
Vehicle depreciation and increased maintenance costs due to increased mileage - totally variable from vehicle to vehicle - driver to driver - driving conditions etc - but hidden costs that I would suggest vast majority Uber drivers would not have their heads around.
 
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Describe "driving it into the ground". I only ask because it occurs to me that mileage on a car isn't quite as important any more.
An uber driver needs a car to be a certain age or lower in order to be able to drive, the car needs to pass roadworthy checks, and spot checks by Qld transport inspectors, they are also encouraged through a combination of pax rating and uber recommendations to keep their cars clean both inside and out.
In my experience, many private drivers (no, not all) don't keep their cars as clean as they might otherwise could, and as we all know, a neglected vehicle ages and deteriorates more quickly than a well maintained vehicle. Uber drivers are well aware of all these issues , well in my experience the ones I have met are , and as such keep their vehicles in good working order.
The other thing many people forget is that they are driving a car they already need, the difference is now a range of tax (and income) benefits they didn't have before.
I haven't done any in depth analysis on this , but I would argue that ride sharing would ultimately put the driver in a better position, rather than a worse position than someone who doesn't enjoy the tax advantages and may not be as attentive to maintenance and cleanliness as the Uber driver would potentially be. I suppose only time will tell.
I have always maintained that I was better off as a self employed individual, because my car costs were much lower than someone who didn't have my tax advantages.
I have always kept my cars (if purchased new) from 5-7 years, sometimes longer.
My current batch of cars are approaching 5 years use from new, and I can't see us replacing them anytime soon. And they get a reasonable amount of use in the business.
So I guess in comparison to a suburban car owner who may even commute by public transport to work, driving uber would be the equivalent of driving their car into the ground.
I leave you with this story about an uber driver with a VERY long commute to work and back.
He made a decision to live further out of the city, for life style reasons, and this meant a commute of longer than 90 minutes each way. So he drives uber , he sets his destination filter on to drive to and from work, and in the morning leaves a little earlier, he doesn't always get a fare but he receives enough to subsidise his commuting costs, and has someone different to talk to on the way to work, the afternoon run is more productive as there are a greater number leaving the city from his location than he gets in the morning run.
This is for my money the real advantage of ride sharing, and probably closer to its purest form.

My rule of thumb re vehicles is:

Keep a car for 10 years
A vehicle loses 10% value over a 10 year period
After 10 years its worth nothing
The 10% value is depreciation and maintenance
At about the 5 year mark maintenance is greater than depreciation.
To maximise the value of the depreciation a vehicle should be driven 20000 km a year. +/- 5000 km

Take home message is that low km does not necessarily translate to better value retention nor high km value loss. In fact its better to get more km out of the car during your period of ownership than not.

My 11.5 year old 12/2009 VW Golf diesel $42000 new is now worth $7000 redbook. 180000km ,
Per km basis $0.19 per km (no tax deductibility taken into account nor cost of putting it on the road). If <20000 km/year this cost increases. If >20000 km/year this cost decreases.
Per year basis (irrespective of km) $3181 per year. When the car is young most of this is depreciation When the car is old most of it is maintenance and repairs. When maintenance = depreciation is usually about 5-8 years.

Yes Ridesharing in its purest form provides multiple benefits to multiple parties.
But in its current form Uber and the like are operating like taxis and will not really provide a sustainable income for its drivers. Yes it would be better packing shelves at Coles.
 
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Financially, sure. But there are different forms of wealth.
Absolutely there are - but from the drivers you talk to Skyring I would be terribly surprised if financial reward is not the primary reason they are on the road - I have never spoken to an Uber driver who drives as much for the enjoyment as you do.
 
My uber was illegitimately accessed 2 nights ago and my number was changed to a Russian mobile. A trip was requested in Moscow and then cancelled.

I've contacted uber and they confirm that my account was accessed, nothing else on my account was changed including my password.

I've now updated my account password, number and all appears in order.
 
Absolutely there are - but from the drivers you talk to Skyring I would be terribly surprised if financial reward is not the primary reason they are on the road - I have never spoken to an Uber driver who drives as much for the enjoyment as you do.
Well, I wouldn't do it if I wasn't paid. It pays for the car and a bit of travel and that's nice.

There's a few like me, mostly older folk, retired, still useful in the workforce, but hard to get good part-time jobs that won't interfere with the pension. Any more than twenty hours a week is pushing that button.

And the hours I drive, the roads are empty. After seeing Tehran's traffic, I'll never complain about Canberra's roads again, but it's fun to drive around when there aren't many cars about. Just me and the kangaroos. Canberra's a town set up for driving, at least when there's not a lot of traffic.

I net about $12 an hour, I guess, after I pay for the car and the tax. Not great money, and if I drove when there were more Ubers on the road I'd likely lower that rate even more.

As far as I can see, driving an Uber and driving a cab pays about the same on an hourly rate. The big difference for me is that I can work whenever I want, I don't have to do those crazy twelve-hour shifts, and the Uber app does all the work for me. I don't have to worry too much about working out the route, and I don't have to keep an eye on my passengers wondering if they are going to run off into the night without paying.

It works for me.
 
And the hours I drive, the roads are empty. After seeing Tehran's traffic, I'll never complain about Canberra's roads again, but it's fun to drive around when there aren't many cars about. Just me and the kangaroos. Canberra's a town set up for driving, at least when there's not a lot of traffic.
What areas of the city do you normally drive around in?
 
Just had another good Uber ride. A mate (actually a boss) jumped in for the ride and as someone who normally takes a cab, he was happy with how streamlined the whole process was.

EDIT ... something happened with my post (maybe too many HH wines). I finished off by saying the normal $12 fare had jumped to $15+. Perhaps the first of Ubers mile high price hikes? Still, it was $10 cheaper than a cab ... however there were many cabs in the rank, but I had to wait for 5 minutes for an Uber. At the end of the day, Uber has to keep people happier than a cab does. Right now, it's due to price (plus niceties like no waiting for payment delays and real time tracking). It'll be interesting to see where Uber sits in the long run.
 
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Actually, I think I've had a win - seems that one of my trips in Perth last month hasn't hit any of my Uber-listed CC's and I note online that it doesn't have a card showing against it (yet on the App it shows the correct [business] CC?). Was this Uber giving me a freebie for my regular patronage?
 
Their estimate time for driver to arrive at Sydney Airport (International) seems terribly off. Had a couple of recent experiences where 5 minutes becomes more than 15 minutes.
 
I have been working in the States a few times this year, the latest last week, and I can see where Uber fits into the US transport structure very well. Outside the major cities I do struggle not driving a car and taxi's are unreliable. I find around the city the prices are a bit lower than taxi's, but travelling out of the city to factories etc, they are far cheaper. First day in Reno to the factory (near Tesla) the price was just on USD$105 for a taxi. Tried Uber for the rest of the week, USD$35 per trip. I expected a bit cheaper, but less than 60%!!!!!! and the service I found there was great.
 
What areas of the city do you normally drive around in?
What areas of the city do you normally drive around in?
I prefer the inner north - that's where I live - but can get pinged from anywhere if it's really early. At that hour, no part of the city is more than 15-20 minutes away.

Not a big fan of airport pickups. Usually the first planes land about when I'm thinking of heading home.
 

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