What's it like flying an Alliance Aircraft with a QFd flight number, E190

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Service wise on the plane, I mean, how is it, ... (apart from seat condition), yes, I know those 190s came from many other owners, and have seen the youtube videos of these Alliance E190s, will show their age, etc, is the side 4A good, on its own, anyone had that one?
Is my expectations too high???
All others, ie, 1 to 3A taken, 1DF, 2DF, 3DF, 4DF not available.
Have done the E100 with VA PER - ADL, this time, its BNE - ADL.
First time in the BNE dom J lounge.
Jul school holidays.
If not right branch/twig, please move.
 
It will be just like a QFLink flight on a 717 but a better hard product imo. I am a big fan of the E190's, specially in the A seats.
 
I will tell you later on tonight pooch, do you want a photo of 4C?

I have been on these birds in Y & J before, overhead lockers over on left are a little smaller than right in J cabin, so don't bring the kitchen sink on as hand luggage.

The seats are all fine, crew ok and J food no better or worse than a B737 service, nice views and windows but not as good cabin privacy as VA J class (Y class pax using fwd lavatory).
 
Thanks.
Need to have to urge to fly after being cooped up for so long!
Seeing that QF have "outsourced" the flight to Alliance, and there are only 2 QF flights, the others of the day are Alliance, on behalf of QF.
I note the seats in Y are 18 in, where as 737 is 17in.
Timings suits.
My first one on the E190, and visit to the BNE lounge, so can't complain, eh?
At least no PCR test and no RAT test, only have to wear the mask, if NZ had no PCR test, I would have gone over to AKL with QR.
Ok, thanks you both.
Ps, I tend not to eat too much on my trips, and don't drink too much cider either, so not using loos on planes.
And no, no pixs of loos as some love to do on youtube.
Will take pix of food in the lounge and food on plane though, maybe catering would be back to "normal by then".
 
OK I've got to ask what's your issue with PCR tests (and I suspect both inflight masking and PCR tests for NZ will be gone by July.. well maybe not the tests actually given it's NZ) but OK sure, they cost a bit and are kind of not the most fun you can have at an airport (or wherever) but they're not the worst thing on earth either.. like having a 767 subbed for a 737 for example....
 
OK I've got to ask what's your issue with PCR tests (and I suspect both inflight masking and PCR tests for NZ will be gone by July.. well maybe not the tests actually given it's NZ) but OK sure, they cost a bit and are kind of not the most fun you can have at an airport (or wherever) but they're not the worst thing on earth either.. like having a 767 subbed for a 737 for example....
They cost and added uncertainty to the trip. And no I don't mean testing positive, I mean having to wait for the results. Yes, some places are quick turn around but not everywhere. Also, I don't like the prospect of queueing up with others who may have COVID. As someone who is immunocompromised, whose had their fourth dose of vaccine and tests weekly regardless of symptoms, I have an invested interest in not getting COVID. The other issue I have with these tests is they give you a false sense of security. Just because you tested negative doesn't mean you don't have COVID and aren't contagious. It doesn't mean you won't encounter travellers in the airport who aren't tested but do have COVID (e.g. domestic travellers, and international travellers to destinations where testing isn't a requirement).

I'm sorry to say it but COVID is endemic. We have to learn to deal with it. This means investing in high quality disposable masks and using every measure provided to eliminate potential exposure from COVID. It's also unclear how well the vaccines are at stopping breakthrough infections. So far as I can tell not a single study has investigated it in any great degree of detail. And by that I mean looking at things like exposure. For instance, if you received your booster 2 weeks ago and pass by someone who has COVID will you get COVID? What about if you're masked? What about if you take other measures? How does that change if you talk to them for 10 seconds or half an hour? What about if you, like me went to the vaccine buffet and selected AstraZeneca, Moderna and Pfizer versus someone who kept ordering Pfizer from the menu. Again, we are only beginning to understand breakthrough infections.

Frankly all of us immunocompromised people are taking precautions and hoping the bush fire gets everyone else so we have some semblance or herd immunity. I know I really dodged a bullet flying out of Sydney in early January before Omicron took hold and cases went through the roof.

-RooFlyer88
 
I flew in J last week BNE-NTL.

Hard product - like flying American Eagle. In fact, exactly like flying American Eagle. I flew them in J in Jan and had the exact same seat as I did with QF. I do believe the 10J aircraft came from AA, which explains that. They made a point to say next time you fly the aircraft will likely be in a QF livery.

Soft product - I’d say it’s pretty close to mainline for J. It felt more mainline than 717. Unsure why, I guess their training is recent. The 1-2 config is so good for solo travellers.

it would be my pick of the QLK fleet for sure.
The seats are all fine, crew ok and J food no better or worse than a B737 service, nice views and windows but not as good cabin privacy as VA J class (Y class pax using fwd lavatory).
Front J lavatory was strictly enforced on my flight - more so than I’ve seen done on any mainline domestic.
 
$140 a pop each time to cross the ditch.
Not cheap.
Say if I wanted to visit NZ for 4 times, snow visits, going to see side way growing trees of Invercargil... etc, yep, $140 each go.
(((I am a cleaner with fixed cleaning schedules, so my trips to NZ tend to be short sharp bursts))).
 
I flew in J last week BNE-NTL.

Hard product - like flying American Eagle. In fact, exactly like flying American Eagle. I flew them in J in Jan and had the exact same seat as I did with QF. I do believe the 10J aircraft came from AA, which explains that. They made a point to say next time you fly the aircraft will likely be in a QF livery.

Soft product - I’d say it’s pretty close to mainline for J. It felt more mainline than 717. Unsure why, I guess their training is recent. The 1-2 config is so good for solo travellers.

it would be my pick of the QLK fleet for sure.

Front J lavatory was strictly enforced on my flight - more so than I’ve seen done on any mainline domestic.
Funny you should mention that, our E190 left last night with the rear Y toilet unservicable, so the only toilet on board was the front J cabin toilet, pretty empty flight luckily, but pretty exasperating for the cabin crew trying to do a J class service.

Sorry I didn't get the photo of 4C @AustraliaPoochie, someone was already in it when I boarded.

Now I understand about your personal circumstances, and trying to social distance as much as possible, I can see why your were asking about J seating on the E190.
 
They cost and added uncertainty to the trip. And no I don't mean testing positive, I mean having to wait for the results. Yes, some places are quick turn around but not everywhere. Also, I don't like the prospect of queueing up with others who may have COVID. As someone who is immunocompromised, whose had their fourth dose of vaccine and tests weekly regardless of symptoms, I have an invested interest in not getting COVID. The other issue I have with these tests is they give you a false sense of security. Just because you tested negative doesn't mean you don't have COVID and aren't contagious. It doesn't mean you won't encounter travellers in the airport who aren't tested but do have COVID (e.g. domestic travellers, and international travellers to destinations where testing isn't a requirement).

So this is totally OT to this thread but I wanted to address this comment as a kindred spirit.

I too have had four shots as an immunocompromised person, and have, bar a few QF dom trips, kept pretty much to myself and hardly left my home trying to avoid the 'rona. And yet, last week I got it somehow (I suspect a random 'drive by' in a suprtmarket or something as I had no close contacts or people I had any more than a minute or two fleeting interaction with for weeks so can't really explain it, but BA2 is that kind of beast. Anyway I've been infused with the fun drugs and have turned the corner and it's been like a nasty cold to me.

I digress though as it's not about me.. only to your point about it's endemic and we'll have to live with it despite all the best precautions we (all of us, but specially those of us more 'at risk') do.

I do agree re false sense of security. Heck I know people who have had false positive RAT results AND PCR results (and false negative). Mine was a very solid positive RAT plus symptoms, so it was a bit of a no brainer, even if I had no obvious contact. I suppose though that PCR's are considered to have high accuracy but as discussed elsewhere one can doa PCR the day before travel, but develop within a day or two anyway post exposure (that may not have shown on PCR at a point in time).

And it's nobody's fault. However I got it it's of course not their fault (unless they were knowingly positive and supposed to be isolating, but that's a whole other thing). Of course we all know people can have mild or no symptoms and carry it and it spreads like wildfire, so I don't look at people and think oh it could be you, or you, or them... it's just out there. Now if I went to one of those covid parties, well that's on me... but given I tried most things to avoid it I am a bit annoyed that I didn't do anything fun or exciting since I got it by avoiding those things (no, I don't mean I would have gone to a covid party of course!! :) ).


But yes, they (the test) do cost a fair bit and it is a real impact on people for sure, as well as a PITA (and your point re waiting for results is of course very valid too).

I do personally suspect that more and more countries will follow on from UK/ Aus and now Singapore and drop requirements over the nest number of months. I am certain countries are well aware that as others drop their requirements they then become more and more outliers, and will have an economic hit if someone chooses to go to, for example, the UK rather than the US for these reasons.

Anyway I totally understand your situation given it's very much my own.. but now I've had the damn thing despite all the efforts well perhaps now is a time to contemplate a trip somewhere while I have some bloody antibodies! Lol
 
Sorry I didn't get the photo of 4C @AustraliaPoochie, someone was already in it when I boarded.

Probably because that seat doesn't exist! ;) (it's A + DF)

is the side 4A good, on its own, anyone had that one?

I haven't sat in it, but I've sat in 3A twice now. 4A is exactly the same, but you have Y directly behind you. So would be the same as sitting in 3C on a 737, in that aspect.
 
4C though is good for a "look at me" moment.
No curtains so even better.
DYKWIA... Sorry.
I don't mind OT but others do.
DPD is also an offput to overseas travel.
Laptop has a chance of being stolen or broken.
Data overseas roaming is not cheap.
Or having to buy an overseas sim.
 
4C though is good for a "look at me" moment.
No curtains so even better.
DYKWIA... Sorry.
I don't mind OT but others do.
DPD is also an offput to overseas travel.
Laptop has a chance of being stolen or broken.
Data overseas roaming is not cheap.
Or having to buy an overseas sim.

Alliance QF E190s have curtains - transparent mesh ones like they use in the US
 
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Qantas has just got the full compliment of 18 E190 confirmed and their 19.9% Alliance ownership has been given the nod by the Feds. They will fill the gap i imagine until at least the A220's arrive and probably beyond. They will also be an effective counter to Bonza in the regional domain. They turn up in lots of routes now i.e. Im booked on QF 1934 Adelaide- Bne in June with the E190. This is a great article on the aircraft and may assist you with seat appraisal:

What it’s like to fly on the QantasLink Embraer E190
 
Also, I don't like the prospect of queueing up with others who may have COVID.

Get your testing done at a Histopath drive-thru 48-72 hours (whatever your destination permits) before your trip - just book online and rock up to your local community clinic. Guaranteed physical distancing from everyone else getting tested, they can do certified RATs and PCRs and give the appropriate documentation needed for all countries except China - need to go to the airport location for the blood test needed to enter China.

You still get your results same-day so plenty of time to make changes to your booking if you do happen to test positive.

Just because you tested negative doesn't mean you don't have COVID and aren't contagious. It doesn't mean you won't encounter travellers in the airport who aren't tested but do have COVID (e.g. domestic travellers, and international travellers to destinations where testing isn't a requirement).

This sounds like a good case for not travelling at all, rather than flying domestic over international?
 
Thanks.
Need to have to urge to fly after being cooped up for so long!
Seeing that QF have "outsourced" the flight to Alliance, and there are only 2 QF flights, the others of the day are Alliance, on behalf of QF.
I note the seats in Y are 18 in, where as 737 is 17in.
Timings suits.
My first one on the E190, and visit to the BNE lounge, so can't complain, eh?
At least no PCR test and no RAT test, only have to wear the mask, if NZ had no PCR test, I would have gone over to AKL with QR.
Ok, thanks you both.
Ps, I tend not to eat too much on my trips, and don't drink too much cider either, so not using loos on planes.
And no, no pixs of loos as some love to do on youtube.
Will take pix of food in the lounge and food on plane though, maybe catering would be back to "normal by then".
NZ accept a supervised RAT result. Some Chemist Warehouses do supervised RATs for $30.
 
Qantas has just got the full compliment of 18 E190 confirmed and their 19.9% Alliance ownership has been given the nod by the Feds. They will fill the gap i imagine until at least the A220's arrive and probably beyond. They will also be an effective counter to Bonza in the regional domain. They turn up in lots of routes now i.e. Im booked on QF 1934 Adelaide- Bne in June with the E190. This is a great article on the aircraft and may assist you with seat appraisal:

What it’s like to fly on the QantasLink Embraer E190
One good thing about flying Alliance's E190, is that there is a J class to book, (even if its not as "plush" as other airline's J cabin).
Some of QLK's 717s from MEL - HBA for eg, do not have a J cabin.
QF dares to charge $1200 for ADL - MEL - HBA, and has the gall to tell me (or us), that our flight from MEL - HBA will be in economy.
The 737s that do MEL - HBA of course, does have the J cabin, for that, $1200 I feel is appropriate.
Where as the Alliance E190 direct ADL - HBA for $890, at the least has a J cabin.
Meaning we are paying a huge bonus to "sit in Y" on the flight from MEL - HBA.
Maybe Jul 2023, I will go with Alliance direct ADL - HBA, bypassing MEL.
 
One good thing about flying Alliance's E190, is that there is a J class to book, (even if its not as "plush" as other airline's J cabin).
Some of QLK's 717s from MEL - HBA for eg, do not have a J cabin.
QF dares to charge $1200 for ADL - MEL - HBA, and has the gall to tell me (or us), that our flight from MEL - HBA will be in economy.
The 737s that do MEL - HBA of course, does have the J cabin, for that, $1200 I feel is appropriate.
Where as the Alliance E190 direct ADL - HBA for $890, at the least has a J cabin.
Meaning we are paying a huge bonus to "sit in Y" on the flight from MEL - HBA.
Maybe Jul 2023, I will go with Alliance direct ADL - HBA, bypassing MEL.
Agree. Last month i just took VA HBA-ADL direct on the Monday service in J in 737 comfort, unfortunately the pax count was only around 90 odd.
 
Sorry for a moan.
QF has changed my flight to a mainline QF66* something.
So I have long chance to fly an Alliance F100.
Probably list my window seat too
:(:(
Edit: yep, so I lost my preferred seat, with the airline QQ to QF and aircraft type change.
Had to go into MMB and put back window seat.
Their systems are indeed atrocious.
Not happy Alan.
 
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