What is the Rule?

[mannej]

Ditch in the ocean?? From Cairns to Brisbane??

Also since only 1 commercial jet aircraft has successfully ditched and that was in a river not the ocean, I say that would be just about the worst outcome possible. Anything worse than that and the dog is the least of the problems.

Medhead, what is your definition of successful?

 

[opusman]

Medhead, what is your definition of successful?

The US1549 style rather than the AF447 style.

 

[medhead]

Medhead, what is your definition of successful?

Everyone staying alive seems like a pretty good outcome to me. I know there are a few accountants around here, but I assume even they would not be unhappy at the lost capital equipment.

Google found this: http://www.airsafe.com/events/ditch.htm It lists 4 ditching attempts. I have to revise my previous to 2 successful ditchings, both in rivers not the ocean.

while I don't know for certain, I'd lean toward AF447 being a crash rather than a ditching attempt. Even so if they did try to ditch in the ocean - I say not successful.

 

[mannej]

The US1549 style rather than the AF447 style.

Everyone staying alive seems like a pretty good outcome to me. I know there are a few accountants around here, but I assume even they would not be unhappy at the lost capital equipment.

Google found this: http://www.airsafe.com/events/ditch.htm It lists 4 ditching attempts. I have to revise my previous to 2 successful ditchings, both in rivers not the ocean.

while I don't know for certain, I'd lean toward AF447 being a crash rather than a ditching attempt. Even so if they did try to ditch in the ocean - I say not successful.

A quick Google search suggests that there have been a number of water landings (in both jets and props) that have had a number of survivors, so does that count as successful or not?

 

[medhead]

A quick Google search suggests that there have been a number of water landings (in both jets and props) that have had a number of survivors, so does that count as successful or not?

2 quick points:
I wrote Commercial JETs
I wrote EVERYONE staying alive.

You asked my definition of successful. There it is...

I would also say that there is a difference between a ditching attempt and, say, missing the runway to land on the water. In the second case it is probably safe to say they weren't planning to land on the water.

 

[parsonstrish]

IF this was first flight the dog was tied the passenger may think this was cabin crews decision and not regulations. Passenger becoming distressed at someone's rules, also worried about his dog. It's always difficult when regulations, laws, rules whatever are not followed and person on receiving end perhaps thinking they are being discriminated against when applied.

 

[jb747]

Also to those who think the dog would become a 10-15kg missile in an accident you'd have to probably double that weight as an average adult Labrador weighs considerably more.

Don't forget the G loading.