What do Qantas tiers look like going forward?

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With few exceptions, at the moment there's little difference between being a Platinum One and a Bronze member.

Obviously most people aren't flying at all, but for those that are there are no lounges and service onboard is very limited.

With international flights off the table for a long time, status priority for upgrades doesn't matter. For domestic, you can confirm immediately or be upgraded based on status - but don't expect any food or wine!

So where to from here? What's the future for tiers? How long before status has any meaningful benefits?
 
The original poster didn’t say they were worried...

It’s an interesting question more industry wide than QF.... with less travelling will all airlines reduce their hurdle rates for a period of time to achieve elite status?
 
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Things will return to normal in due course. At which time you can start worrying about your status.
Yes, I’ll wait until I’m flying again before I worry about status.
 
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Isn't this mostly a moot point? Lounges will start returning soon, trans Tasman after that and wider international flights later this year or early 2021. Service onboard is determined by class not status, or at least that's the official line ;)

The only possibility about tiers is QF *may* change SC requirements. Knowing QF though I'd expect another status extension before lowering of SC thresholds.
 
Received a boarding pass for seat 3a on a recent BNE -MEL (A330). Check in person informed me it was based on status but to not expect any service as they were not selling business class on that flight.
Same thing happened a few days ago to a colleague who is gold.

The extra real estate was was appreciated just the same.
 
Received a boarding pass for seat 3a on a recent BNE -MEL (A330). Check in person informed me it was based on status but to not expect any service as they were not selling business class on that flight.

Any others who were upgraded?
 
Isn't this mostly a moot point? Lounges will start returning soon ...
We hope so. However, there’s the issue of potentially no buffet selection, prepackaged food only, no self-serve anything, including wine/soft drink, no newspapers/magazines. Stay seated and wait for service? Not to last forever, I guess?
 
Received a boarding pass for seat 3a on a recent BNE -MEL (A330) .... they were not selling business class on that flight ...
So, some all-economy flights now, and on the A330.
 
I expect QF to do nothing in terms of tier qualifications - unlike some others, like United, who have halved current year qualification criteria and will have lowered, but not the same, qualifications next year.

I believe QF will, as in the past, throw out bonus SC offers like candy - heck a TSC would NOT shock me, maybe for higher fare classes as initial incentive when more travel is opened up - both capacity, borders opening and so on.

QF can't really do anything much (but I am sure they have plans) until there's real options for both leisure and general business travel but I am sure when that happens there will be sales and promos galore, but I do not feel they will change the tiers.

And yes I know of the people, as time goes on, who have been negatively impacted by the March status extension, as time goes on with little opportunity to fly and earn more bar a few promos like WWR and BP and the points transfer.... I get how you all feel and as each month advances more and more people as they clock over anniversary date (like tonight) will be affected... I am sure QF will do something.. not sure what. Just have to wait and see. They're obviously aware of the concerns here.
 
If VAversion2 returns as a LCC, with no FF system, then QF would be the only Aust airline with a recognition for FF, and its a good thing to go for.
If QFF was the only one after Q3 this year, ie, VAversion2 does not have a FF system anymore, ie pure LCC, I would probably put 99.9% of my flying back to them, so I might be able to have at least QFF PS.
If VAversion2 returns, with the same FF system as now, then it would be up a flyer's perspective, or which airline or their partner to go with, I might continue to fly with the replacement airline, so my flights would depend on price and times of flights.
Its hard to say what value to status at this point in time, even without Covid19, as VA is in administration, and some say might not exist, (Terry McCann's article, that VA like AN can't be saved).
Between the QP single visit as a QFF PS, vs no lounge as a VAversion2 LCC flyer.
Waffly off.
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Received a boarding pass for seat 3a ...
...The extra real estate was was appreciated just the same.
At least you had a gain of a 330, without too many riffraffs, plus the front cabin, plus aisle view/or is 3a closer to the window, etc, etc, etc.
$699 at the least if it was a revenue seat on that sector.
 
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Well VA actually maybe well a factor. If VA emergeces as LCC or with a different/devalued Velocoty program (yes I know it is a separate at rms length company it is sill obviously heavily linked to VA) then QF will have less incentive to be as generous as they might be if they feel the competition for both business and loyalty pax is weakened significantly.

I still do feel that QFF will bend over backwards to help get bums back on seats. OK maybe not TSC per se (on a sale F fare... cheers!) but I think there will be all kinds of promos and bonuses designed to entice us back. Seems a no brainer as one of the main tools they have, along with discounted fares, to stimulate demand.

We'll just have to wait and see.
 
Well VA actually maybe well a factor. If VA emergeces as LCC or with a different/devalued Velocoty program (yes I know it is a separate at rms length company it is sill obviously heavily linked to VA) then QF will have less incentive to be as generous as they might be if they feel the competition for both business and loyalty pax is weakened significantly.

I still do feel that QFF will bend over backwards to help get bums back on seats. OK maybe not TSC per se (on a sale F fare... cheers!) but I think there will be all kinds of promos and bonuses designed to entice us back. Seems a no brainer as one of the main tools they have, along with discounted fares, to stimulate demand.

We'll just have to wait and see.

If VA2 is decided to be a LCC it will probably be more interesting to see how JQ reacts rather than QF mainline!
 
how JQ reacts rather than QF mainline!

I'd think, to make sure customers stick to the QF-JQ brand, & not try the competition VA-LCC, QF would do everything it can in its power to help choose customers to either fly QF (pay premium, full service airline) or choose JQ (pay less, LCC airline).

Strategic pricing comes to mind and also strategic routing/route timings. JQ might have flights to international destinations that depart/arrive within 30 minutes of it's QF counterpart. This way, if for some reason QFF can't make the original QF flight, they can choose to fly JQ and viceversa.

I believe QFF will get more preferential treatment on JQ, more than what we get now. May be better seats/upgrades, or less QF points on JQ routes or may be provide some sort of incentive to QFF to choose JQ over the newly minted VA-LCC

VA-LCC, on the other hand might try some tricks and bring in a low cost, no frills, watered down version of Velocity - to sort of entice customers to fly - pay less, enjoy the comforts of VA-LCC VFF program.
 
It's so hard to know. I mean when DJ first launched there was some business travel move to the lower cost model at the time and obviously when it morphed into VA, got corporate contracts, lounges etc it became far more of a threat to QF's higher yielding passengers. If VA2 emerges as more LCC QF probably would try to target potentially former corporate customers with status matches and the like and some will likely jump ship.

I do agree a LCC and mostly AU centric VA2.0 as has been mooted as one of the models would mostly see a response from JQ rather than QF - fight like with like.

The effect on QFF tiers and potential promotions?? I still say not a lot in terms of tiers themselves - QF has a history of not budging on such things and using different tools, like bonus SC promos and discount fares to stimulate demand. Status matches definitely could come into the mix if they think they can snag some VA corporates (and it's interesting to know that post reorg if current big corporate contracts still exist or would be renegotiated - I am thinking of things like the AFL here)... QF would love to get their hands back on some of those big juice contracts if possible.

So many nebulous factors here including VA, the demand for flying from business and leisure pax, state border openings and policies (eg: QLD, WA, SA, TAS) and QF's real need for cash flow ASAP.....
 
In the news, flights between ADL - CBR and ADL - HBA are now possible, for the Jul school holidays, most likely with JQ esp for the ADL - HBA sector, as was before the Covid19 travel restriction started, but VA does not fly this sector, so we have to wait with baited breath, as for now, up to Jul 03 to see if QF will offer a DSC/TripleSC, or something, or nothing.
 
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