Western Sydney Airport (WSI) Discussion

[markis10]

Not sure what went on with that WSI-OOL that ended up in NTL.

OOL storms

 

[anat0l]

Alright so signage and architecture on the way from security to the gates. There is a big cafe due to open here. A large relay store which has a not terrible meal deal (drink sandwich and snack for $16 I think) and then a smaller cafe in the gate area, which I didn’t pay a huge amount of attention to View attachment 528810View attachment 528811View attachment 528812View attachment 528813View attachment 528814View attachment 528815View attachment 528816View attachment 528817View attachment 528818

Most of those "countless destinations" are no doubt connections thanks to QR and SQ, with second place to FJ and NZ.

Still really curious to see if this will make a mark especially for Sydneysiders living out west vs closer to Mascot, let alone others who may have a choice due to being quasi-equidistant from both of them.

One thing that seems certain for now is WSI is an endpoint and not so much a connecting gateway.

 

[SYD]

One thing that seems certain for now is WSI is an endpoint and not so much a connecting gateway.

Plenty of non-SYD based AFF’rs here hoping for exactly that - so they can bypass the SYD D<->I transfer pain point.

 

[nancypants]

Plenty of non-SYD based AFF’rs here hoping for exactly that - so they can bypass the SYD D<->I transfer pain point.

MEL is my connecting airport of choice but yes it seems like WSI would be an excellent place to connect. However other than SQ and NZ, sort of (and maybe JQ/QF to QR except probably not), there isn’t a lot of sensible connections on offer tbh. JQ/QF to FJ, maybe?

 

[Saab34]

Looks like they need a crew for the last Melbourne flight, just added a further hour to the departure.

 

[DC3]

… WSI is an endpoint …

 

[anat0l]

MEL is my connecting airport of choice but yes it seems like WSI would be an excellent place to connect. However other than SQ and NZ, sort of (and maybe JQ/QF to QR except probably not), there isn’t a lot of sensible connections on offer tbh. JQ/QF to FJ, maybe?

QR might be able to score on VA (and maybe QF connections to a lesser extent), same with SQ. (Surely it's possible to ticket arbitrarily a VA and QR or SQ flight on the same ticket - award seats?).

I think people would settle for a non-protected connection, because it would still be the same building. I wouldn't risk it myself at, say, 90 minutes (I'd go at least 2 h 30 m), but overall people will think it more palatable than attempting the same stunt at Mascot.

But until those domestic and international connections, whether intentional or otherwise, appear, it's mostly an endpoint airport. I think there's an airport hotel being considered for WSI? If not, it's definitely not somewhere you'd be able to overnight easily. Accommodation for IRROPs will be most interesting (of course, no one is wishing that for WSI in the early days, or at all); crew rest accommodation likewise (for those crews that can't do immediate turnarounds).

 

[Harrison_133]

Looks like they need a crew for the last Melbourne flight, just added a further hour to the departure.

Looking at the Flight Radar playback, it pushed back at 2138 but returned to the gate after lining up on the runway.

 

[anat0l]

So what's everyone gonna call the two Sydney airports?

Tokyo has Narita and Haneda. London has Heathrow, Gatwick, etc.. New York - LaGuardia, JFK (no one says John F Kennedy; some may say Kennedy) and Newark (some might say Liberty). Kuala Lumpur has KLIA (for the one in Sepang) and Subang. Melbourne has Avalon (if that can be called Melbourne) and Tulla (or Tullamarine).

Now us "geeks" will just go WSI and SYD, i.e. "double you, ess, eye", not "wessi" or worse...... Given the incompetence in the media (or the media struggling to field a good story), seems "Sydney" and "Western Sydney" is going to be too confusing for some (I dread to think what those idiots will do when they read FIDS). "Sydney Kingsford Smith" is the official adopted by airline and booking sites all over, but that's a mouthful to say each time, and SKS just doesn't sound right.

Anyone maybe for "Badgery's" and "Mascot"?

 

[kerfuffle]

So what's everyone gonna call the two Sydney airports?

Western Sydney and Sydney or Kingsford Smith.

Probably not a straight comparison, but no one has trouble distinguishing between Western Sydney University and the University of Sydney

 

[moa999]

Agree think Sydney and Western Sydney will be most common. Some might use Mascot and Badgerys. Don't see much usage of Kingsford Smith and Nancy-Bird Walton.

 

[Aussie_flyer]

QR might be able to score on VA (and maybe QF connections to a lesser extent), same with SQ. (Surely it's possible to ticket arbitrarily a VA and QR or SQ flight on the same ticket - award seats?).

I think people would settle for a non-protected connection, because it would still be the same building. I wouldn't risk it myself at, say, 90 minutes (I'd go at least 2 h 30 m), but overall people will think it more palatable than attempting the same stunt at Mascot.

But until those domestic and international connections, whether intentional or otherwise, appear, it's mostly an endpoint airport. I think there's an airport hotel being considered for WSI? If not, it's definitely not somewhere you'd be able to overnight easily. Accommodation for IRROPs will be most interesting (of course, no one is wishing that for WSI in the early days, or at all); crew rest accommodation likewise (for those crews that can't do immediate turnarounds).

Where do you think the airport is? It's 20 minutes drive to Liverpool, hotel such as Mercure, Meriton etc are all available in that area and quite good

 

[cmaviation]

Agree think Sydney and Western Sydney will be most common. Some might use Mascot and Badgerys. Don't see much usage of Kingsford Smith and Nancy-Bird Walton.

Given ‘Walton’ is the aeronautical shorthand for the airport I feel that wouldn’t be a completely crazy idea.

In saying that the media probably won’t adopt it.

 

[jase05]

Where do you think the airport is? It's 20 minutes drive to Liverpool, hotel such as Mercure, Meriton etc are all available in that area and quite good

Yep, and about the same to Penrith which also has decent accommodation.
The Courtyard by Marriott at WSI looks doomed but I’d imagine eventually an airport hotel willl open up

 

[DC3]

Anyone maybe for "Badgery's" …

I’ll probably just stick with Badgerys Creek. That’s where it’s located anyway.

 

[jase05]

I’ll probably just stick with Badgerys Creek. That’s where it’s located anyway.

The airports address is actually Luddenham and the airport is located in both Luddenham and Badgerys Creek

 

[DC3]

The airports address is actually Luddenham and the airport is located in both Luddenham and Badgerys Creek

Yeah. In both, but Luddenham sounds a bit ‘off’.

 

[http_x92]

I also noticed that the Mercure Liverpool restauruant has done a makeover this year - probably in anticipation of WSI guests.

The 80 (ex T80), 853 or 854 will be needed if you want to go anywhere without a car but I think for most it will be a layover anyway.

 

[SYD]

So what's everyone gonna call the two Sydney airports?

Tokyo has Narita and Haneda. London has Heathrow, Gatwick, etc.. New York - LaGuardia, JFK (no one says John F Kennedy; some may say Kennedy) and Newark (some might say Liberty). Kuala Lumpur has KLIA (for the one in Sepang) and Subang. Melbourne has Avalon (if that can be called Melbourne) and Tulla (or Tullamarine).

Now us "geeks" will just go WSI and SYD, i.e. "double you, ess, eye", not "wessi" or worse...... Given the incompetence in the media (or the media struggling to field a good story), seems "Sydney" and "Western Sydney" is going to be too confusing for some (I dread to think what those idiots will do when they read FIDS). "Sydney Kingsford Smith" is the official adopted by airline and booking sites all over, but that's a mouthful to say each time, and SKS just doesn't sound right.

Anyone maybe for "Badgery's" and "Mascot"?

You forgot “Nancy Bird Walton” is the full name of WSI.

Are you flying out of Kingsford or Nancy?

When I was younger, if you were flying out of SYD domestic, we would say “Mascot” and international was reserved for “Kingsford Smith” (right or wrong).

 

[Beano]

MEL is my connecting airport of choice but yes it seems like WSI would be an excellent place to connect. However other than SQ and NZ, sort of (and maybe JQ/QF to QR except probably not), there isn’t a lot of sensible connections on offer tbh. JQ/QF to FJ, maybe?

Good point! When flying from NZ to places further afield than SYD, WSI might be a good place to pick up a connecting flight to other destinations in Australia, assuming they exist and are timed right. Currently MEL is my favoured connecting airport.